3 NIGHTFALLS COMPLETED REWARDS FIRST RUN- 12 SHARDS SECOUND RUN- 11 ENERGY THIRD RUN- 11 -blam!-ING SHARDS AGAIN WHAT THE ACTUAL -blam!- IS THIS BS LOOT SYSTEM, I HAD THE MOST KILLS IN 2/3 NIGHTFALLS, LAST WEEK I GOT SHARDS AND ENERGY BUT AT LEAST I GOT A DECENT ROCKET LAUNCHER THE LAST RUN BUNGIE REMOVE SHARDS AND ENERGY FROM THE LOOT DROP TABLE. ON LEVEL 28 STRIKES MAYBE SHARDS WERE HELPFUL GETTING TO 30 BUT WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY 30-32 DOING THE 30 NIGHTFALL WHAT IS THE POINT. REPLACE WITH EITHER RADIENT SHARDS AND ENERGY OR EXOTIC SHARDS BECAUSE AT LEAST THEY ARE STILL RELEVANT Shoutout to Viral Assassin8 for the biggest drop kick in this thread. I just want people to take the time to read our argument on the issue of ascendant material relevancy on the future dlcs, and his 10/10 well educated responses. He is in quotes, my responses aren't. [spoiler][quote]First of all this post needs 97% less capital letters (other then the correct ones). Second is that you do not understand that reward is more then enough for a Nightfall reward. Not only will you still need that stuff when HoW comes out in 2 months but others still use it daily.[/quote] Dude that makes no sense, you're living in lala land if you think ascendant materials will be used in house of wolves. What would they be used for? To upgrade the new raid gear armour? Radient materials are the new ascendant. The upgrades for the next higher light gear will require radiant simply because everyone already has 100s of ascendant materials and would be able to instantly upgrade. And it will repeat so in the HoW raid there will be new upgrade materials which will then be used in the dlc after that and so on until we have a set of upgrade materials for each raid. [quote]You can doubt it all you like. They would be dumb to do that [b][i]again[/i][/b] as we see how awful and stupid it was. Ascendant mats will be here to stay I think. They made it past the first DLC.[/quote] They made it past the first dlc because there was nothing else, like the other guy said, if you are 31 on all your characters you may aswell delete your ascendant materials because unless you plan on levelling lower tier items they won't be used again. Which ties into the release of the bigger vault space to chuck all your redundant materials. Bungie already threw away 2 whole vendor armour and weapons for the next dlc, what makes you think the same won't happen to mere upgrade materials [quote]I'm going into the shower. Leave another comment so I can get back to you after with my reasoning and why it's possible.[/quote] It's not possible, think about it, the whole point of rng is to make it take longer for most to progress through the game. Why have that kind of system and then let everyone instantly get to the next light level as soon as the next dlc is out, to then beat the raid as soon as possible, to then reach the new light cap and stop playing [quote]Ah so your a child. Understanding. I won't waste my time. Good day.[/quote] [quote]I didn't read much of your arguemnt as I felt like you were whining in it. If it's possible I'll discuss this Inn private chat where I can actually she'd light on this thought process before you take your whinny kid argument to it.[/quote][/spoiler] Also lol @ the people who say the nightfall is there for the exp boost. It's the hardest non raid activity, it's meant to give useful items and not things you cannot use. You don't play nightfall for the boost, if nightfall didn't drop gear and only gave an exp boost maybe 5% of the playerbase would continue to do it