[i]"The "MIC OF GTFO" people need to realize that they are being ignorant when they assume anyone without a mic cannot play" [/i] I felt compelled to reply to your post, since it felt particularly vitriolic for no good reason. Firstly, you assume that anyone that insists on players in their group having a mic do so because they think people without mics can't play; and this is an asinine and insulting assumption to take. I don't know how you do it, but i actually play the same regardless of whether i have a mic on or not (pesonally i rarely use my mouth to use my controller...) - if i'm in a Fireteam with my Clan Mates or i'm solo'ing some PvP/'Strikes. my skill level is unaffected by whether i have my mic turned on or not - and i would imagine it is the same for others. However, personally i don't want people in my Raids or groups who don't have a mic, unless they are adept at communicating in another way. Let's face it, the PS4 messaging system is utterly rubbish, and messages sent take up to five minutes to even be read-able, so communicating this way is not possible. If we need to ask who is picking up what and when, if people have questions, if people are giving call outs, then comms is an absolute must in my opinion. I have run Clans, Guilds and Kinships for years, and i have end-game Raided on all kinds of platforms, and whilst it *is* possible to do things when some of the group can't communicate, it makes those split-second decisions/questions much more difficult, and so the % chance of screw ups because of bad communications are much more likely. This effect is compounded by the more people that don't have comms (i.e. if 2, 3+ people don't have a way to effectively communicate, instantly, on the fly (and in combat!) then life becomes exponentially more difficult). Also, please don't discount the fact that for those of us that have built up groups of people that run together on a regular basis, we care quite protective of our Clans/groups/friends (etc.) and we want to get to know the people they are playing with. For me the 'social' element of online gaming is one of the most attractive, and i like running content with people i can have a laugh with, and those that can STFU when needed (i.e. in a Raid we tend to speak only when we need to, so we have clear comms - Except for when a drunken Clan mate tries to do the jumping bit in the VoG Raid, then we all sit back and laugh our asses off for ten minutes... lol). Without being able to actually *talk* with someone, it becomes infinitely more difficult to figure out what someone is *like* - And while there are people on my friends list who don't have mics, and i have run content (VoG etc.) with them before without hearing them say a word, it was not as enjoyable an experience as when everyone is on comms and being social. And lastly (and again, purely my opinion, and likely to get me branded an Elitist (again... lol)) - as far as i can see, there really is no excuse for playing a game that revolves around teamwork and not having comms of some kind. The idea of spending £300(+) on a gaming system, and not spending £20 for a half decent gaming headset seems insane to me - Not to mention you even get a free headset (that actually works... albeit on a basic level) for the PS4 (not sure about the Xbox?). If you want to work as a team with people, then you need to be able to communicate properly - aside from the tiny % that may have legitimate reasons for not being able to/wanting to talk, i feel the vast majority have no real excuse not to get involved and joining in the conversation! :) As a wise man once said "It's good to talk" :)

How about so we know they actually understood? Some stuff in the raid are pretty complex for new timers. Not to mention if they have a question or something. Have a mic on even if you don't talk much, just so everyone knows theres an easy way to communicate with you