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6/29/2020 12:43:58 AM
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So, tell me again why CBMM is great for everyone?

This is going to end in disaster, I guarantee it. I’m a mediocre player at best, and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been launched into matches in progress with spawn traps in full swing, woefully mismatched opponents, and teammates throwing in the towel. I literally just left a match where I was left alone for most of the time and the other team raced around to see who could kill me first. Running full meta, I might add. That BS about high end players relaxing and going off-meta? I sure haven’t seen it. This is where someone comes in and calls me names, tells me to git gud, quit playing, all the regular stuff. Fine, I agree, I’ll quit PvP. Why on Earth Bungie believes the bulk of the base is going to volunteer to go through what I’ve seen over the last few days over and over eludes me. I mean, it’s not like we have Trials as a perfect example of what happens when casuals get run out. High end players want to own, they don’t want to play players on their own level. They don’t care how pitifully overmatched the other side is - in fact, the more the better. That last match I played was the perfect example. They were falling all over one another to kill the lone opponent with Mountaintops, Felwinters, Spare Rations, Redrick’s... Makes life easier for me. Won’t feel compelled to enter that nonsense anymore, just like Trials. And I’ll confess, I’m going to be laughing my butt off in a few short weeks when the top players start whiny about how sweaty Quickplay is again.
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  • Bearbeitet von DUNNY1981: 6/29/2020 6:29:46 PM
    Tiny tears aka sweats and YouTubers/streamers complained about sbmm because they couldn’t enjoy themselves meaning they don’t like getting killed and they cannot create sad and creepy kill streak videos to put onto twitter or YouTube. Now since cbmm is in they now say learn and git gud scrub but have a short memory about complaining about the same thing for months on end about being put up against people of the same skill level or slightly better. So eveyone is gonna moan until sbmm gets brought back and there’s not a dam thing they can do about it.

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    • Because it is [b]true [/b]fairness. Having SBMM makes you feel like an average player even if you are not. Don't get me wrong I totally understand why it is frustrating, but having the exact same odds for everyone is what true fairness means.

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      • I think the biggest issue is the layout of maps. Theyre too small and condensed to allow the system to pick a good spawn point making games spiral out of control. I prefer cbmm because queues are quicker without lagg but i know for a fact that sbmm is shitty no matter how they reintroduce it. Mainly looking at comp. What is the point of having ranked comp if the rank progress means nothing when matching against either people way above your rank or way below. Ive never seen this in any game that has a ranked game mode yet bungie feels like its ok to allow it.

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      • It's not. But the sweaty no-lifes think they earned the right to coast and stomp newbies because they're good at PvP. Mainly though, the game is not really doing so great so they have to relax matchmaking because the population isn't strong enough to support anything other than basically a free-for-all.

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        • This isn’t the first time CBMM has been brought back. They usually try to appease both sides by having SBMM for a time, then CBMM and so on and so forth. I personally like CBMM better since matchmaking has been significantly quicker and I have been experiencing less laggy matches overall now that connection is the main priority. However I understand that some players like having a safe space to play, so I’m not entirely unsympathetic. I just think that the main PvP mode should be CBMM, and that there should be other modes that are SBMM.

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          • There is a million and one other pvp gamrs to play as I keep saying to people go play something else start with modern warfare and Battlefield 1 You will truly see destiny pvp for what it is in a very short time

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            • Bearbeitet von Sweet Lew 88: 6/30/2020 1:28:59 AM
              Lol, this isn't the first time theyve done it. Youre still playing. They only do it when the play base shrinks. I believe they will bring sbmm back in September because of the boost to the player base.

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            • I fully agree!

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            • I think I am one of these sweats. And I’ll be honest destroying players does feel good considering playing sbmm every game meant I wasn’t really gonna drop 50 opponents defeated in a game. But there are other benefits I get much faster queues with better connection. I can now play with below average friends they wouldn’t play with me before because my sbmm was too high also I can do bounties making me use off meta like scout rifle kills. So these are some reasons I enjoy cbmm make sense?

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            • can confirm. All my matches have either been team shooting meta abusers or team shooting sweaty apes. I've just quit out of them because the spawns are stupid broken again and all my teammates are clueless bloobs

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            • I’m an average player and I can not stress that enough . The only thing I have noticed is that now my hits are actually registering on my target 98% of the time . If I get outplayed , I get outplayed . I understand the pitfalls of this system and maybe actual servers would eliminate one group having a connection advantage over another . Also , if I drop into a match and the score is 111 to 23 , I exit really quickly . No need to feed the other team when you will never get your footing or super before the match ends .

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              • You mean to tell me there were people playing off meta before

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                • Its probably the same logic, why Bungie thought "casual" players gonna stay in trials and let them farm up by "content creators" - quotation marks, because they create a shit, they just playing a game, which wasnt developed by them - and upper tier players. I also consider to quit Destiny, PvP was actually the only thing that I enjoyed, but now its a fking sweat shit and not fun, people running meta loadouts, emote picking, fking grenade launcher stacks and so on. 2-5 players with 25+ defeats, when the rest chilling with maximum of 11-12. Their argument to get better can get fked, why do you play a "fun mode" if you want to improve, go fking play tryhard modes and not qp. You wanna push your ego and release another video how you get 100 defeats? Do you really think to beat weaker players is an achievement? I agree with you, if Bungie dont change something, QP gonna be second trials and then the "pro players" gonna cry how sweaty it is and that people only emote picking or aimbotting/wallhacking, because it cant be real that someone can kill them without cheats (sarcasm, they are living in fking bubbles).

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                  • Bearbeitet von Sweet Lew 88: 6/29/2020 6:47:24 PM
                    They probably would keep sbmm if the player pool was larger. Usually during the last season of the year, the pool is the smallest. So they need cbmm to keep games going. Yeah, it sucks that they removed the security blanket of sbmm, but this is a great time to improve by playing tougher competition. If youre struggling, I've got a whole bunch of tips to offer. Making a few tweaks to your play style can give you huge gains. I really don't notice much of a difference between sbmm and cbmm. I'm still getting my kills and my share of wins.

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                  • Pvp is better than ever now. No matter how good you are,you cant win from long que times, lag and error codes. Iam finally matching with ppl from my own country again. You gotta understand, because the lower half of the pvp community cant/arent willing to improve the top half has to suffer with lag and issues. You arent getting stomped by the top1% the odds dont allow it. If you get stomped its by your slightly above average joe. The top half had to endure nothing but sweats for long enough. Its fair now that they get to enjoy pvp for once and relax. The pvp "meta" has enough options to enjoy and use. Every weapon type has a archetype thats viable in the current sandbox. If you want to be pretentious and refuse to use those weapons and lose because of it. Thats your own fault. If you dont need those weapons and still win, more power to you. No one has to prove themselves in pvp, you play to win. I hate the current trials "meta" with a passion(wait for super with 100interlect). But it wont stop me from playing like that because i want to win. Matches rn for me are 50/50. 50 for actual decent players like the change never happend and the other 50 is like playing against bots. Cbmm is the best thing bungie ever did to keep ppl intersted in pvp.

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                    • For bad players it must really suck. They were only playing majority of matches against other bad players and they can get kills etc, now with no skill connection they have to face same level players as them and a lot of players who are better. Cbmm only makes it less sweaty for good players and makes it impossible for bad players.

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                      • First: Just follow me and other casuals over to the Freelance comp mode. It's still SBMM and if you just ignore the comp part then you can continue playing for fun with others of your skill level. Secondly the issue was that SBMM was killing the upper tier as it got so thin loading time got very bad and the distribution was all over the world leading to very poor connections for many. While the casual PVP community have the number the competitive PVP community have the hours. In order to prevent total fatigue and abandonment of the top tier players CBMM was added. The casual players will get in the middle experiencing a less enjoyable experience, but it is hopefully temporary until some form of middle ground can be found.

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                      • Boycott all 6v6 playlist. If you want your pinnacle play elimination or comp they are SBMM. If enough of us quit playing, Bungie will take notice, and maybe make a change. What we need is a choice of either SBMM or CBMM. If you want SBMM back boycott crucible. Tell your friends to spead the word.

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                      • I agree we need SBMM back. Give us a choice.

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