I'll cut to the chase. Everyone's sick of Recluse and Mountaintop. Oh strike? Recluse and MT Nightfall? Recluse and MT Menagerie? Recluse and MT Shattered Throne? Recluse and MT Crucible? Recluse and MT Gambit? Recluse and MT Raids? YOU GUESSED IT It's boring. It's really really boring. I accept people having a bit of a honeymoon period with it, and having fun, but when it's the meta weapon in EVERY mode, you have a problem. We need to address the main issue. You CAN NOT continue to balance the game as a WHOLE. IT. DOESNT. WORK. Different modes require individual balancing. You can't just shove a weapon out, and go "hope it works". And that's not to say you can't have specific weapons that are better in Modes, but the way Recluse and MT work in PvP, translates VERY DIFFERENTLY to PvE. Hell, it's used LESS in PvP, because the perks aren't balanced in a mode where getting a kill is CONSTANT, and a weapon that usually only has 2 shots, now has 15+. This is why Rampage works, and Kill Clip works. They're perks built around being more viable in different pieces of content, yet for Pinnicle weapons, you've thrown that design rule out of the window, by just going "AHHH, I DUNOO DO X MORE DAMAGE" Revoker is a GREAT example of a weapon built for PvP. Granted, special ammo is F*CKED in PvP so a free shot is pretty pointless right now, but the effort was there. Taking one look at other Pinnicle weapons, sees their main issue as well. Wendigo is good in concept, but if you have an exotic without a catalyst, it's worthless. Hush is interesting, and some people may make it work, but for a GAMBIT weapon? Everything in Gambit is so aggressively tanky, a bow that shoots fast isn't exactly high value. Loaded Question is good, in concept, but half the reserves are worthless because the gun has a clip of SEVEN SHOTS, which doesn't even fit the design of the weapon, and makes it's nonsense in any content without excessive special ammo available. The fact is, these weapon don't feel like rewards reflective of the mode you get them from. The only one that does is 21 Delirium, but even then, Heavy Ammo is fairly scarce, and the ammo bricks are saved almost exclusively for Truth invader ammo. The Pinnicle weapons need to feel like something you can take into the node you got it from, and excell in THAT mode, and be average weapons everywhere else. Nobody uses Last Word outside of PvP, there's no reason to, and nobody cares, it's a very intentionally designed PvP weapon, and everyone is FINE WITH THAT. There's no reason Pinnicle weapons can't be the same.