So back in year 1 and maybe year 2 (Can't quite remember when they changed the mechanics) Me and few friends used to get so hyped for the new Nightfall when it dropped on Tuesday (Refresh) because it was difficult... no wipes else your back to orbit! This in turn, I felt made you a stronger player, it taught you how to survive, how to play smarter, instead of the "Screw it let's wipe" mentality that is commonly seen today... (I think this would also benefit players when they take on heroic raids as it's similar mechanics, you need to stay alive and play well as a team!) It also made it more fun, it was a challenge, it made you feel like you had accomplished something when you eventually made it to the finish line...(Although that also made you rage when you were shunned by the RNG gods, but that's not the point I'm getting at) Please Bungie bring back the old Nightfall Mechanics (And possibly some guaranteed decent loot for completion) I want to see what the community thinks? Would you find it more enjoyable if they were to bring back the no wipe Nightfalls? If not why... Edit 1#: Ok so I don't necessarily want us to return to orbit in the NF's when we wipe, only that they remove the CP's so we would resume at the beginning of the strike when we did wipe. Edit 2#: ok so quite a few mixed opinions but team YES seems to be stealing the show... Alot of people are saying It's just the nostalgia factor from Y1 but I've got to disagree, I think it was purely the sense of achievement, that you had succeeded in completing something that is purely designed to be a difficult challenge, now yes I agree the RNG loot was quite often terrible and the cheese spots sometimes forced you to play in a way that wasn't enjoyable (depending on who you were playing with) but again if they could improve on the current NF set up by having an option of increased difficulty or something then we would all be winners... Now I read someone mention something about NF tokens, which I thought was a great idea! Example: At the start of the reset each of your characters is given 10/20 NF tokens (non transferable)... every time you die or wipe as a team (Not sure which would play out better) within the NF, 1 or 2 of your tokens is used up, once you complete the NF there are 3 chests... Say bronze silver and gold, to unlock Gold you must have all 10/20 tokens, silver you must have 8/15, bronze you must have 6/10... Gold obviously gives you a far higher chance of exotic or rare legendary if not 100%, and as you go down, silver and bronze get you less... thoughts? This is just one way they could incorporate a more challenging aspect but keeps everyone happy as your still able to complete and be rewarded... Edit 3#: Ok so had a look through the web and found this image taken of the "supposed" Nightfall load out screen from D2... http://imgur.com/UDlm2Qz Edit 4#: Currently its standing at 74% Yes... 17% No... 9% Another Mechanic (01/06/2017) Looks like the majority want "No Wipes" included, and going by the screenshot that's been shared looks like the majority are going to be happy!