[quote]What do you even mean by "real year 1 player"? I mean if you played during year one, then you are, by definition, a year one player.[/quote] People who were here at the start, have either the Beta Emblem or Sign of the Founders and stuck the whole Year out and completed the Y1 Moments of Triumph. These are the real Year 1 Players. Yes you are technically correct; people could have started playing the last week of Year 1 and be classed as Year 1, but in my eyes these are not real Year 1.

[quote][quote]Closed Beta for [u]REAL[/u] Year 1 Players. None of these fake Year 1 players with sub 5000 Grimoire and don't even have a completed Year 1 Moments of Triumph.[/quote] Agreed. I hate the posts where someone is like "y1 guardian, been here since beta, ama" but then they only have 4400 grimoire, >25 raid completions, and no character above light 380.. Lol[/quote] Check his AoT book. He wasn't even here from the start.

[quote]I'm not saying everyone who stopped playing in y1 is like this, just those people who love to claim they are from y1 when really they played for a month and stopped playing until last week. Those guys are hilarious xD[/quote] ^^ This

[quote][quote][quote]Closed Beta for [u]REAL[/u] Year 1 Players. None of these fake Year 1 players with sub 5000 Grimoire and don't even have a completed Year 1 Moments of Triumph.[/quote] I never did Skolas or even tried to get lots of Grimoire. I hope you were being sarcastic but not many people did everything in Y1 because a fair amount of people didn't do raids weekly and got to max light.[/quote] I'm not being sarcastic, I'm being serious. - You say you didn't do Skolas. Why? Too hard? Or weren't you not dedicated enough to find a team capable of doing it. As for Grimoire.... Ok, let's take the "I don't do ghost hunting" excuse. - You have 19 Raid completions. Pathetic. - You are missing a ton of Exotic Weapons that you should have by now, either earned or xurned. - You are missing basic Grimoire like Weapon Kills that should have been completed by now. In a nutshell, my XBL account that has only been played for a few hundred hours makes your account look like you only started playing the game yesterday. And here's the best one, according to your AoT book, you don't have the "From the Beginning" node unlocked.[/quote] I didn't do Skolas because I'm not spending 4 hours in the Prison of Elders with two people I barely know from LFG. I don't do raids because I'm not gonna spend 4 hours with 5 people I don't know from LFG. I'm not a hardcore destiny player who does everything every week.