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1/27/2017 3:06:58 AM
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Yes.
Can torture be effective? Yes.
Should the US practice it? No.
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[quote]Yes. Can torture be effective? No... Should the US practice it? -blam!- No.[/quote] *Fixed...
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Torture can be effective. A simple "No" is sufficient.
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[quote]Torture can be effective.[/quote] We have proven over and over that torture [b] doesn't[/b] work and is [i]not[/i] effective since most the "information" we get is false... People will say and agree to almost anything to make the pain stop...
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Keyword is can. If one single person who has ever been tortured in the history of the world provided good intel, then torture can be effective.
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Technically you're right... Damn your logical thinking...
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You do realize that, from a psychological standpoint, torture is almost completely ineffective. Either you ask questions, and the person agrees in hope of making the pain stop, they don't know what you want and thus can't provide you anything, or they die.
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It depends on the questions and whether or not the victim believes he has a choice to lie. I'd start off asking basic questions, like troop/supplies positions and check that against known intelligence, if he lies then he's asking for more. You use psychology as your ammo when torture is the weapon. FYI, torture has proven extremely effective when done properly.
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Even when it works properly, it then is more likely to inflame anger against us and dehumanize us in other people's eyes.
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People will always hate us because we have things they don't. They don't need any other reasons to demonise us, as evidence by current world affairs. You have sex before marriage? That's unholy in some people's eyes.
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Problem is that, as it is, people might not LIKE us for hat we have, but we also aren't actively the enemy. Once we stoop to torture and the like, we are making it very clear how we feel about them, and fueling the propaganda against us.
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A. You clearly don't know how wrong you are. B. If an enemy force knows that we don't mind torturing them, it'll make them think twice about trying to attack us in the first place. I swear to God, people think that we're going round torturing people for the sake of it. If somebody found themselves in a situation where they were likely to be tortured by our SIS or Military, then they're there for a reason.
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Psychology is the agnostics of the academic world.
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If by that you mean both raise good questions that many don't want asked, then yes.
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No I mean they raise questions and don't give a definite answer because they can't be completely sure.
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And those uncertain answers are better than the concrete assertions of other fields, that are subsequently wrong anyways.
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Assertions can be based off facts.
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Can be, but are just as frequently based off of unsubstantiated claims that subsequently are proven verifiably false.
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Yes they should
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I suppose if you don't know the horrible shit that goes on in the world you would believe that. Ignorance is bliss
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Or you can be apart of not being horrible in the world. "The world is a horrible place" is not an excuse to be horrible yourself.
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In some situations it requires it. You can't play the good guy all the time or you will get destroyed. That's how the world works. All the radicals and all of our enemies would love it if we didn't torture people. It would make their plans far easier. The US won't get praise or invulnerability from other countries for not torturing people. Just makes us an easier target. In a perfect world I completely agree with you. But it isn't a perfect world.
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Not having proper defense makes us a vulnerable target. Not whether or not we torture people. And you can always be the good guy. Doesn't mean you can't fight evil.. "I have not brought fish but a sword".
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Keep believing that. Doesn't really matter as long as some people are willing to do the dirty work so you can keep your life.
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If there's a war on the home front I'm fighting for my life with my guns. It takes someone mental to cause as much pain as humanly possible without killing them. And like I said I don't disagree that it gets results I disagree with the practice in general.
