And left sad AF. For the guardians with short attention spans, please see the [b]TLDR at the bottom of the post[/b]. For those of you who are taking a poop right now, pass the time with this. I’ve spent over a year now trying to talk my brother into buying Destiny, and for various reasons he never did. This xmas his cheapskate ass finally broke down and decided to let me buy it for him, which I did. So I’ve been pumping this game up to my brother for a long time, especially the raids which are what truly got me interested and playing daily. I’ll never forget my first couple of runs in the VoG. It changed the way I look at games, at online interactions and the necessity for teamwork in this game. I never even had a friends list until discovering the truth that Destiny’s VoG [b]is[/b]. I was pumped when my filthy casual of a brother told me that he was raid ready just the next week(he didn’t actually burn through the content as I had thought at first, he played very casually and went the focused light route. I explained how he was cheating himself out of some of the content by doing so but like I said, he’s a casual). So I got a hold of my clan members (who have been on a destiny vacation) to let them know my brother was raid ready and the mother fvcking VoG was our target. After we all assembled at the tower we did what any veteran with huge balls would do, we grabbed our VoG guns and gear and strapped that shit on. I grabbed my VoC, Preadeyths Revenge and Gally. Immediately upon starting the VoG I noticed that there was a problem. We opened the door in what seemed like 40 seconds and I rapidly melted through fully shielded praetorians like a hot knife through butter. I couldn’t believe it, seeing as we all had drastically lowered our light for the specific purpose of making the raid feel like what it used to, for my brothers sake. At the confluxes it remained just as easy so I knew we would have to make adjustments. The vets in the group decided to purposely let enemies pass so my noob brother would get that same “holy shit, there’s too many for me to handle, I need my teammates” feel that many of us had in beginning. Some of us even purposely messed up just so we would have to wipe. I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if I didn’t give my brother the chance to experience how infuriating it can be to have numerous senseless wipes that were due to slacking teammates (a hallmark of any raid). We continued this behavior through the entire raid. We also made him learn and run relic. We made him lead us through the gorgons maze and got him the achievement for downing one. We made him do the jumping puzzle with hardly any help from us. And we only gave a basic explanation of the gatekeeper/Atheon fight while leaving out critical details, with the intention of causing him to panic and loudly call for support. “fvck, you guys, I just got warped somewhere and my screen is going black!” We beat it of course and at the rewards screen my brother got the highly coveted chatterwhite shader and the [b]undisputed king of scouts[/b], the VoC. He proceeded to call me an asshole after discovering that his new rewards mean nothing now and that we did this just for the raid experience. I forgot to mention this to him, whoops! The let down for me wasn’t the raid being easy to the vets, it was my brother telling me that he didn’t really care for it, and that he didn't see any reason to ever do it again. WTF! I can only assume that since he went through it with guys who knew all the ins and outs and didn’t struggle in the slightest and/or because there was no “holy grail” piece of gear or a gun that he was searching for, it all fell flat. I had the hope that the raid would turn my uninterested and disgustingly casual brother into a destiny loving addict like I was the first year. I was truly expecting his VoG experience to convince him to look further into the game, as the raid did this for me and everyone else I’ve ever raided with. But at this point I may have just wasted $40. The whole experience was a sad one, and a reminder of [b]some[/b] of the reasons I took a vacation from my destiny addiction in the first place. I love this game and will be paying for and then playing any content they come out with for the next 10 years. But, right now the heart of the game is missing. We shouldn’t have to make self imposed debuffs (which don’t help really) in an attempt to create the original VoG experience, especially for new guardians. [b]The raids and their once glorious weapons and armor should be made relevant again[/b]. If Bungie made the older content and raids relevant again, not only would it retain more of the vets but it would give the kinderguardians a shot at the same kickass experience that we had. Any other vets here have the same or similar experience? If not feel free to criticize my stats….but only if you have a higher grim! [b]TLDR:[/b] Got my brother Destiny for xmas after spending a year pumping him up for it and trying to get him involved. Leveled him up for the raids but he didn’t enjoy VoG or Crota because the rewards mean nothing and you can’t get that original “I fvcking love this game” feel or the desire to discover more from a raid that has been rendered irrelevant. Bungie isn’t going to win over any new players when the content that got most vet’s playing, means nothing. We shouldn’t have to make self imposed debuffs in an attempt to create the original VoG experience, especially for new guardians. The older content and raids with their once glorious weapons and armor should be made relevant again [b]Edit 1: for grammar pointed out by a 1942[/b]