I posted this in another thread. A lot of people liked it - so I made it a topic. For the sake of the Destiny's PVP. [b]Thorn needs a nerf. Period.[/b] I've been so vocal about this. Sadly, people who agree with me are minority here in the feedback forum. Here it comes, I will get hammered by the following comments. Learn to counter - The pVE only player / guy who definitely has no idea what crucible is about. Just use it too - Thorn user I do just fine against it - TLW user The bounty was hard though, it should be good. - The really bad PVE only player TTK/KD mean nothing! - The bad PVP guy Stop crying scrub - Thorn user heavily leaning on his crutch. Nerf the nerf posts! - PVE only guy that [i]loaths[/i] crucible. Just buff auto's - Guy who doesn't understand FPS' with shield/health system. Wants quick easy kills all the time. Until more people that actually play PVP, and who actually understand the crucible meta post more often... We will sadly be constantly drowned out by the non relenting idiocy that plagues the feedback forum. 2 exotic Handcannons are slowly sapping the fun out of crucible... [b]Not because they're unbeatable[/b]. [b]Not because we die from them when we shouldn't[/b]. Rather, it's because they make body shots competitive, Vis-a-vis It's because they are far too easy to use. It's because everyone realizes it whether they like it or not. And it's because, like a virus, they are slowly spreading to an end game where it's these two guns - or lose. The writing is on the wall. If Bungie plays nice and actually shows user data, we would have a lot more ammunition to throw the defenders... The [b]Rabid crucible hating PVE guy who wants nothin nerfed fearing it will make his dismal end game PVE attempts even harder[/b] And the [b]Soulless, skill-less, unimaginative PVP douchbags who refuse to admit that they are doing better without actually having to aim for the head[/b] I don't think we are as actually outnumbered as it appears in these forums - But I think the people who know what we know, sadly just aren't as vocal as these aforementioned plagues to this game. If they continue to flood the forums with their nonsense as much as they keep doing - The once fun PVP is this game won't survive. Maybe this is their goal all along.