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2/8/2022 4:30:14 PM
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How did 140s and last word evade a nerf?
I've listened to the podcasts and the head weapon dev always refers to usage when commenting on why nerfs happened or didn't happen. For instance ruinous effigy was nerfed because of super high usage and last word wasn't because it's not super high usage. This is quite frankly a terrible way to justify nerfs, especially when they only apply this logic to the weapons they want to while clearly ignoring outliers that are insanely broken but not widely used or hell very widely used.
If we look at last week of trials its breakdown is this:
Kills
24.1% - Hand cannons
14.3% - Shotguns
10.3% - Fusion Rifles
7.1% - Sniper Rifles
6.0% - Pulse Rifles
4.5% - SMGs
4.1% - Linears
3.1% Scout Rifle
Every other week has some fluctuations but what always remains true is hand cannon/shotguns being the top 2 spots. Even on maps like bannerfall with long shooting lanes its the same. The only ones i could find recently(back 5 months) that didn't include those 2 at the top was widows court which was hand cannons/snipers and wormhaven which was hand cannon/fusions.
Hand cannons are always at the top yet nothing is done about them. Last word absolutely ruins the game for everyone in the receiving end of it in a lobby. Yet nothing is done about it.
I get hand cannons are destinys main signature weapon type and people love them. This whole thing of pretending they are the only skillful option while shooting cannons balls with perfect accuracy from the air while doing incredible dmg that excels at peak shooting and shooting from the open is quite ridiculous.
I don't even care about hcs getting nerfed honestly, i just think its ridiculous that soon as something else competes with them it gets gutted. They are talking about messing with SMG zoom levels which i can only assume is to nerf their range. DMT which isn't even consistent to begin with is gutted. Main ingredient is getting gutted.
Outside of an occasional trials weekend none of these things even get remotely close to hand cannon usage. Bungie needs to quit being terrible at balancing and ignoring obvious facts.
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Looks like this thread has devolved quickly so I'm going to lock it. Remember, if you believe someone is guilty of cheating then please use the [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Troubleshoot?oid=13967]Cheating Submission Form[/url]. Public shaming such as this helps no one and is ultimately against the Code of Conduct.
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25 RepliesMain ingridient needs to be gutted. If you think otherwise you're crutching it
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2 RepliesLast Word gives terrible controller players kills so it will never be nerfed.
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1 Replymeta is good as it is and its here to stay
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Those numbers mean nothing it. 24% players may use but it doesnt mean they are good with it
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1 ReplyI would like to se a shift in the meta as well. In my experience, people using HC shotgun combo (and stompees) are also the people sending hatemail, because i play with weapons they dont like.
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I think what he meant is that a change in the sandbox will be very welcomed. Because hand cannon, shotgun meta has been since D1 pretty much. And you cannot deny the fact that hand cannons are clutch weapons. Peek shooting, insane in-air accuracy, stupid amount of damage and flinch and they take little flinch from incoming fire…
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1 ReplyBecause Handcannon elitists think other weapons don't have a place in Destiny,and that's who Bungie serves gO pLaY CoD ,no I am going to stay here just to annoy you
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The answer to the question is that Bungo's favorite streamers don't want them nerfed. Period. Anyone else says anything else is lying.
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5 RepliesWhy do cheaters think they can give feedback on the state of crucible?
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Go on, hide that game history 🤡🤡🤡. https://trials.report/report/2/4611686018435786890
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Edited by Twin Inferno: 2/10/2022 4:03:56 PMYou Win trade then you think you can have a say in the current sandbox? Pathetic
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Because the PVP community would have a COW...and kittens.... if Bungie nerfed 140s....
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I agree with your points but you had a 10.0 last season cheater
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I agree with your points and from what I’ve read you win traded. I want to report you but I won’t until you game history loads and shows suspicious behavior.
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6 RepliesGet bodied. That's what you get for win trading
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Edited by Vincent: 2/10/2022 12:17:34 PMGet good
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7 RepliesJust cause they’re overused doesn’t mean they’re overpowered.
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1 ReplyToo much range, too good in the air. It is that simple.
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2 RepliesPeople who quote usage stats to claim that hc's are op are the same people who said those stats are meaningless when Hardlight was the number 1 gun by over 30%.
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Cause the majority of the player base would riot
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21 Repliesthe hc meta is getting stale
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3 RepliesWhat will be the next weapon you will be crying for nerfs? Cause the last time i checked nerfing a weapon wont make you pop of in crucible magically
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Gutted is a pretty strong term for DMT and the Xur fusion. They will remain solid. But solid is now considered bad because it doesn't mean top.
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Maybe they focus less on Trials usage and more on regular PVP? Last Word isn't even in the top 10 in QP, and it's ranked 9 in comp right now. Then you also have to consider which rolls for weapons are actually seeing use. An adept Palindrome with Rangefinder and Killing Wind I'm sure would see comparable usage to an Eyasluna with Rapid Hit and Kill Clip.
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I love this community. Let the cheaters enjoy those dang tasty just desserts. We may be upset, but we can direct that anger to justice on these cheaters.
