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Edited by Xeno:
10/18/2017 12:48:58 AM
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Upvote if Handcannons Need a Buff
They just aren't good. Better Devils and Midnight Coup (The raid Hand Cannon) are decent but... anything else pretty much sucks. Judgment's okay, I guess.
Increase their range by a lot (Or as Bungie would say, 5 meters) or maybe a decent amount. I don't know.
What do you guys think?
Edit: We're trending! Hopefully Bungie sees this and considers buffing HC's.
Edit 2: Many people want Bloom to be taken away or lowered on HC's. This would be a great buff.
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1 ReplyEdited by YayoHayo: 10/18/2017 6:26:16 AMI think all the people who think hand cannons are "fine" are the people who couldnt use them in d1 and are currently crutching on the easy mode guns, for example auto rifles... Hand cannons need to not be rng based when firing at a target. I prefer hand cannons even in this terrible meta and they are definitely high risk low reward right now.
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#MakeHandcannonsGreatAgain
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I upvoted this earlier, but honestly I’m not sure they need one now. I’m by no means great at PvP, but I’ve done pretty well with the steady hand in the Crucible recently. As long as I took my time and landed some critical hits, I seemed to win most fights. (This was in the most recent matches I’ve played, my overall K/D is nothing special.) The real kicker is that I’ve played this same way in other games and did terribly. It was like I was shooting blanks 50% of the time. I’ve positively shot people in face several times, to the point where I’d stop shooting because I fully expected them to have died, only to be killed by a barely hurt and most likely confused opponent. This makes me think that your network connection has more to do with hand cannon performance than anything else. Reducing bloom would probably mitigate latency issues, but I don’t see any easy fix that’s going to make everything seem fair to everyone all the time.
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5 RepliesEdited by Level28: 10/17/2017 7:22:56 PMThe hand cannons are exactly where they should be. Not the nonsense they had in D1. The FWC hand cannon is awesome, check it out.
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Defenitley increased range and the removal of bloom (or increased aim assist, feels a lot hard to hit shots than D1).
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Slight buff to HC and Pulse Rifles please! Slight btw Bungie. Too much and it goes overboard.
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3 RepliesNo RNG bullets. That is all I want for Christmas.
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The steady hand is already awesome but 2 Crit one body should kill but it don’t due to enemies resilience I guess.
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i think they should remove bloom and decrease the aim assist so hand cannons could be usable in any situations but they would be pretty hard to use at longer range. it seems fair to me.
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they feel much more stiff and clunky than the hand cannons from D1. i used to use HC's only but now in D2 I have tried just about all of them and none feel right. even if I'm landing all headshots i still get out gunned by Uriel's, Mida, and last hope. the Iron Banner HC is the best I've played with but still don't like it in the crucible. pulse rifles need a slight buff as well imo
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12 RepliesNo range buff needed... What is needed is the following -removal of bloom -buff in air accuracy -buff impact as follows -max impact does 75 crit 50 body -mid impact does 69 crit 46 body -low impact does 65 crit 43 body
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About time a worthy upvoting topic. Just remove bloom and they will be fine.
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they're actually pretty good, it's the state of the meta that puts them in such a bad spot. true prophecy is one of my favorites and it's one of the lower fire rate archetypes, which is still pretty fast compared to the slower archetype in D1.
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Meh. Put them all in a digital dumpster and set them on fire. Then start over with one of their previous counterparts. I suggest Imago Loop. These handcannons are the most generic gun I've ever seen in a video game.
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Have you guys ever been shot by Uriels gift when trying to shoot a guy? That + bloom=Impossibility to aim.
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Edited by Cry: 10/18/2017 4:22:31 PMBloom needs to be removed/reduced significantly and be flinched less. Trying to hit shots against a HCR scout/auto is nearly impossible.
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Bloom needs to go to start with.
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2 RepliesHand cannons should always be top of the meta if people are accurate and can land their shots.
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2 RepliesThe HC crybabies is out. Buff hC to a two shots kill for them.
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Remove bloom and they will be in a good place :) That’s all that needs to be done.
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7 RepliesThis is why d2 sucks right now. can't use something? NERF OR BUFF IT. How about people just stop with that crap? Mida is not a meta in pvp. Hand cannons do not need a buff. The ONLY weapon that i would possibly support a buff of is the grenade launcher.
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They are fine.
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humm.. i already bought a new game since i ran out of anything useful or fun to do, But your saying this game still had hand cannons???? what are they used for? no impact, no range.. all the same . My favorites in D1 You cant make this shit up , its like they sat in a room and asked ..."Hey guys how can we completely go in a different direction in d2"? Another guy raises his hand....How about making it have no end game?? 2nd guy said ... and can we make everything the same....so no one feels special? 3rd guy .....Take everything from the first game they liked and toss it Go on guys... I like the vision your headed ....
