TL:DR at bottom
[b][u]PAST[/u][/b]
"Wahhh Suros is op!"- Auto rifle - nerfed into uselessness until the buff
"Wahhh auto rifles op!" - Blanket auto Nerf into uselessness
"Wahhh Vex is op!"- Fusion rifle - nerfed into uselessness, re-buffed, still useless
"Wahhh Pocket Infinity is OP!"- Fusion rifle - nerfed into oblivion
"Wahhh fusion rifles are op!"- Blanket fusion nerf
"Wahhh blink op!"- Nerfed blink
"Wahhh shot package is op!" - Removed a perk from the game
"Wahhh high impact pulses op!" - All high impact Messenger type pulses nerfed
"Wahhh final round op!"- Removed this perk from all new snipers
"Wahhh hand cannons op!"- Added bloom, ghost bullets, and gimped range across the board
"Wahhh Red Death is op!" - Pulse rifle
"Wahhh shotguns op!"- Blanket shotgun nerf, happened three times until we got to the current shotguns
"Wahhh sunbreakers op!" - Gimped sunbreaker until the buff/fix
"Wahhh sunsingers op!"- Gimped sunsingers
"Wahhh ice breaker encourages camping raid/strike bosses!"- Increased the time it takes for ammo to regen
"Wahhh shadestep/twilight is op!" Added 3 second cool down and lowered to one dodge instead of two
"Wahhh gjallahorn kills bosses too fast!"- Nerfed wolfpack rounds damage
"Wahhh nobody will let me raid with them because I don't have gjallahorn!"- Every player can now get the gjallahorn out of a quest
"Wahhh re-rolling is unbalanced! It reduces weapon variety!"- No weapon can now be re-rolled at the gunsmith anymore
"Wahhh armor piercing rounds op!" Removed ability to shoot through walls
"Wahhh specials are used as primaries!"- Reduced special and heavy ammo across the board
"Wahhh snipers have too much ammo!"- Reduced total sniper ammo capacity across the board
"Wahhh arc bolt/fire bolt is too good!"- Nerfed hitting range and damage
"Wahhh the Ram gives too much armor!"- Nerfed exotic armor perk
"Wahhh the last word kills too fast!" - Multiple nerfs to range and perk
"Wahhh thorn is useless, buff it!"- Buff made it two shot kill with the DOT
"Wahhh thorn is too op now, nerf it!"- 7 months later the inevitable nerf happened, reducing DOT damage and range
"Wahhh hawkmoon has too much range!"- Nerfed range
"Wahhh 3oC is op!"- Lowered drop chance and raised cool down on consecutive uses
"Wahhh snipers are op!"- Increased flinch and reduced the impact of medium impact snipers (like longbow)
"Wahhh bladedancers are op!"- Nerfed subclass three times
"Wahhh tripmine shouldn't stick!"- Removed stick on players
"Wahhh revives in trials are too short!"- Increased revive times across the board
"Wahhh universal remote kills me too far away!"- Nerfed damage and range, buffed ROF slightly
"Wahhh throwing knife and smoke is op!"- Nerfed damage and activation time respectively
"Wahhh mida is op!"- Removed high caliber rounds from its hidden perk
"Wahhh shoulder charge is op!"- Nerfed shoulder charge
[b][u]PRESENT[/u][/b]
"Wahhh primaries are too weak! Buff them!"
"Wahhh shotguns are too op, nerf them!"
"Wahhh stormcaller melee/class is op! Nerf it!"
"Wahhh juggernaut is too op, nerf it!"
"Wahhh there isn't enough class variety! Buff (insert class here)!"
"Wahhh skip/lightning/axiom bolt/sticky grenades are too op! Nerf it/them!"
"Wahhh there isn't enough gun variety! Buff (insert weapon type)!"
"Wahhh Destiny is boring because everything is too weak! Fix it bungo!"
TL:DR, think about why primaries and some abilities are good/suck before you complain for buffs/nerfs.
You people get every single weapon type nerfed, then complain that they're now too weak and "deserve" a buff. This is why PvP is ruined and no wonder bungie struggles to balance this shit. These nerfs also affect PvE too.
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Everytime you wine about anything in this forums bungie nerfs something, they'll nerf anything but can't nerf their fckin staff, they need to chill tf down
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3 RepliesThe only one that needed the nerf immediately was final round. Cheesiest shit to ever be in this game
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Well said
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RIP hahahaha
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I got heartburn just reading all this, because I lived through ALL the nerfs Ugh
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Someone call the Wambulance
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Wahhh my optimism is too low!
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3 RepliesYou forgot!! they Nerfed Luck in the Chamber for Snipers!
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I was expecting this post to be much longer
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Loved how everything started with 'Wahhh!'
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Bungie should take advice on what to nerf/buff from literally anyone but the people on the forums in my opinion. [spoiler]nerf fusion rifles[/spoiler]
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Um! Everything. That pretty much covers it.
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Sometimes bungie nerfs things that nobody complains about.
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2 Replies"Complains about everything that makes a weapon/subclass unique until it gets nerfed; then complains that everything is too bland or weak and that there's no variety" -Destiny forums in a nutshell. Last week I heard someone bitching about people who use NLB in Crucible. Yeah, the F***ING NO LAND BEYOND, OFTEN CALLED ONE OF THE WORST GUN IN THE GAME, IS NOW OVERPOWERED. If you honestly think the NLB is OP in anyway; kindly uninstall the game please.
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Forgot throwing knifes nerf
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Vex was still amazing in TDB through most of HoW after it was re-buffed. It easily competed with and outperformed every auto rifle. But then it died again
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Edited by Sir Michael: 11/10/2016 11:00:49 PMCrucible's not as anymore with all of the nerfs that happened. I've almost exclusively used hand cannons the past two years, and I'll just say that Legendaries were in a good spot before TTK came out; yes, you were able pop people from medium range, but pulse rifles and scout rifles were around to keep them in line. After TTK came out, I had to put them on retirement until the April Update, and that didn't even do the weapon class much justice with the damage dropoff system implemented. I want to use HCs without Rifled Barrel, but the damage dropoff is too severe without it, forcing me to only use my Eyasluna in fusion rifle range for the best results. Because of that, I have to switch to other guns when I play maps like Bannerfall and Widows Court, but the problem is that I'm not as good with those guns as I am with HCs. I can use scout rifles just fine, but I lost my rhythm with pulse rifles, and I can't use an auto rifle to same my damn life. D: I've changed my playstyle far too much this past year, I'll be damned if I have to do it again because of another nerf.
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How much pull do you really think we have?
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I want everyone to take note that Bungie doesn't have problems balancing the game because of player complaints. They have problems balancing the game because there are so many different weapon types in the game, many of which have high damage outputs (shotguns, sniper rifles, fusion rifles, rocket launchers, machine guns, swords, melee attacks, every single super ability, grenades). It is a nightmare to keep all of these weapon types set up in a manner where they are all viable options against one another without making them all exactly the same. You're right to say some complaints are irrational and are sometimes the source of vented frustration, but Bungie controls this game. They can see what weapons are being favored heavily over others. They take player critique into consideration but they also take their own metadata to even larger consideration.
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This why Bungie needs to keep pvp and pve separate
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9 RepliesSpot on most day one players would agree it was pretty balanced until the hunter nerfs started then this amazing hard to get primary fusion rifle cane out and only a few people had it nerf it to oblivion. You had to work for everything day one now i feel the community is like oliver twist please sir can i have some more handouts......
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I submit this community has got ZERO nerfed. Bungie changes the meta to keep crucible fresh and get the most longevity out its content and assets. They let you believe you have a voice and if you do, you're a fool.
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3 RepliesDon't forget about icebreaker.
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3 RepliesYou're not wrong saying people want to nerf everything or buff everything. The complaints are silly. Saying this game is or was at some point even marginally balanced? No. This game is about as balanced as Call of Duty and is taken about as seriously as a Call of Duty game. If these guys didn't make Halo (far superior in competitive play) this game wouldn't have any of the attention it does now or at launch. None.
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All I read was wahhh wahh wahhh