TL:DR at bottom
[b][u]PAST[/u][/b]
"Wahhh Suros is op!"- Auto rifle - nerfed into uselessness until the buff
"Wahhh auto rifles op!" - Blanket auto Nerf into uselessness
"Wahhh Vex is op!"- Fusion rifle - nerfed into uselessness, re-buffed, still useless
"Wahhh Pocket Infinity is OP!"- Fusion rifle - nerfed into oblivion
"Wahhh fusion rifles are op!"- Blanket fusion nerf
"Wahhh blink op!"- Nerfed blink
"Wahhh shot package is op!" - Removed a perk from the game
"Wahhh high impact pulses op!" - All high impact Messenger type pulses nerfed
"Wahhh final round op!"- Removed this perk from all new snipers
"Wahhh hand cannons op!"- Added bloom, ghost bullets, and gimped range across the board
"Wahhh Red Death is op!" - Pulse rifle
"Wahhh shotguns op!"- Blanket shotgun nerf, happened three times until we got to the current shotguns
"Wahhh sunbreakers op!" - Gimped sunbreaker until the buff/fix
"Wahhh sunsingers op!"- Gimped sunsingers
"Wahhh ice breaker encourages camping raid/strike bosses!"- Increased the time it takes for ammo to regen
"Wahhh shadestep/twilight is op!" Added 3 second cool down and lowered to one dodge instead of two
"Wahhh gjallahorn kills bosses too fast!"- Nerfed wolfpack rounds damage
"Wahhh nobody will let me raid with them because I don't have gjallahorn!"- Every player can now get the gjallahorn out of a quest
"Wahhh re-rolling is unbalanced! It reduces weapon variety!"- No weapon can now be re-rolled at the gunsmith anymore
"Wahhh armor piercing rounds op!" Removed ability to shoot through walls
"Wahhh specials are used as primaries!"- Reduced special and heavy ammo across the board
"Wahhh snipers have too much ammo!"- Reduced total sniper ammo capacity across the board
"Wahhh arc bolt/fire bolt is too good!"- Nerfed hitting range and damage
"Wahhh the Ram gives too much armor!"- Nerfed exotic armor perk
"Wahhh the last word kills too fast!" - Multiple nerfs to range and perk
"Wahhh thorn is useless, buff it!"- Buff made it two shot kill with the DOT
"Wahhh thorn is too op now, nerf it!"- 7 months later the inevitable nerf happened, reducing DOT damage and range
"Wahhh hawkmoon has too much range!"- Nerfed range
"Wahhh 3oC is op!"- Lowered drop chance and raised cool down on consecutive uses
"Wahhh snipers are op!"- Increased flinch and reduced the impact of medium impact snipers (like longbow)
"Wahhh bladedancers are op!"- Nerfed subclass three times
"Wahhh tripmine shouldn't stick!"- Removed stick on players
"Wahhh revives in trials are too short!"- Increased revive times across the board
"Wahhh universal remote kills me too far away!"- Nerfed damage and range, buffed ROF slightly
"Wahhh throwing knife and smoke is op!"- Nerfed damage and activation time respectively
"Wahhh mida is op!"- Removed high caliber rounds from its hidden perk
"Wahhh shoulder charge is op!"- Nerfed shoulder charge
[b][u]PRESENT[/u][/b]
"Wahhh primaries are too weak! Buff them!"
"Wahhh shotguns are too op, nerf them!"
"Wahhh stormcaller melee/class is op! Nerf it!"
"Wahhh juggernaut is too op, nerf it!"
"Wahhh there isn't enough class variety! Buff (insert class here)!"
"Wahhh skip/lightning/axiom bolt/sticky grenades are too op! Nerf it/them!"
"Wahhh there isn't enough gun variety! Buff (insert weapon type)!"
"Wahhh Destiny is boring because everything is too weak! Fix it bungo!"
TL:DR, think about why primaries and some abilities are good/suck before you complain for buffs/nerfs.
You people get every single weapon type nerfed, then complain that they're now too weak and "deserve" a buff. This is why PvP is ruined and no wonder bungie struggles to balance this shit. These nerfs also affect PvE too.
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8 RepliesYou blame the community for nerfs, but do you give credit to the community for buffs and fixes? No... so you see it's a balance. Being one sided makes you look stupid. Also, did you ever consider why weapons get nerfed? It's not the whiners, it's actually the over use and abuse of players who use them.... that is, unless you loved having 12 Thorns in every game. So, please... get real.
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1 ReplyYet you also were part of the crowd that got things nerfed OP. Congratulations, you played yourself.
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1 ReplyNot like it's relevant anymore but I think you forgot icebreaker.
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3 RepliesThe list of things the community hasn't gotten nerfed: Nothing
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3 RepliesYou forgot sunbreaker Titans
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1 ReplyYou act like hammers and shade step weren't justified
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1 ReplyI feel like this list is a little short.
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2 RepliesIf they didn't nerf many of these things PvP would be a disaster. The buff primary plans will result in a cod play type of I see you first you're dead. TTK should not be lowered because of this. Nerf shotguns is not popular because 75% of people now use them, but it makes the most sense. I want TTK to remain the same but make it so primaries are effective, thus the only way to do so is nerf shotguns. My suggestion would be to increase the ADS and reduce the range dramatically for shotguns while sliding or jumping.
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Thanks for the support all :D
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Bumpity Bump
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That's a little dishonest, no? Bungie would have nerfed many of these things, even if the community said nothing, just based on the statistics they get alone. They know when a gun is dominating, they sometimes know it before the community starts even overusing it (in the case of the Mida, an employee who showed up on a planet destiny podcast made note that it was on the rise of use long before the community made any hullabullub about it.). That isn't to say a number of these nerfs are not community enforced. But they can see what you use, how much you use it, and how succesful you are with it.
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Remove bloom from hand cannons decrease flinch on snipers a little or make it so you zoom out when you get shot buff hand cannon range by 3 percent increase grasp of Malik damage fall off at range a bit boom balance
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PLEASE JUST NERF THE DAMN MATADOR.
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Year 1 PVP was so good compared to this shite. Yeah I know we had shotguns that could 1 hit kill you from a mile away. But at least I didn't get ghost bullets with my handcannon. If I lost a primary fight in year 1 it was because the guy was better than me. Now it's bc RNG decided that my bullet wanted to hit the wall behind the guy instead of hitting where I was aiming.
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3 RepliesEdited by D2istrash: 11/11/2016 1:18:06 AMI think you missed "Wahhh, Hawkmoon can one shot me one time out of 50 rounds! Nerf Hawkmoon!" And "Wahhh, no one will let me raid with them since I don't have a Gjallarhorn!" And "Wahhh, Thorn DoT does to much damage! Nerf Thorn!"
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I tried vex yesterday in mayhem clash and.. It wasn't THAT bad. It's awesome if you know how to land headshots. But it Does need a buff.
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I would like to see Bungies "data" associated with these nerfs. It'd be interesting to see.
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Pretty much sounds like every cruci-baby on the classes/balance/weapon forums.
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What also is a problem, is that they are nerfing a weapon class instead of the weapon itself. An example is vex mythoclast instead of nerfing the weapon they nerfed fusion rifles. And I hate it that they removed the large maps from the normal playlist (now the only way to play it is waiting for the combined arms playlist).
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1 ReplyPretty sure you forgot about thorn, dot and throwing knives.
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1 ReplyI absolutely despise the Crucible but it's sometimes the only way to get that weapon or armor item to level up... That's why my Crucible rank is only 11 and I've been playing since day 1 lol
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But i went flawless yr 1 with hard light
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What next? My guess bungie will remove hc rounds and counterbalance as they are the shot package for pulse rifles..... Its sad old world. Bungie needs to buff all primarys back to year 1 apart from the obvious few what were broken as hell *cough* last word and thorn *cough*
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I'm sure there is a hell of a lot more than that. It's definitely getting worse. People will never be happy with this game.
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This is true. It's not bungie that's -blam!-ed this game up,it's the whining little kids that have.