Ok, primary weapons have become pretty much useless. All people do now is stay in the air near Dorr ways and corners and wait to shotgun, or you get titans with juggernaut just pissing people off with the shield and shotgun combo. You can't counter shotguns reliably if ever in this game now. They have nerfed everything to the point where you are forced to run a shotgun just to stay alive. And supremely has pretty much been infested with shotguns since it released. Comon bungie. Give my primary some nuts!
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Maybe you could actually counter shotguns if you weren't such a bad player. Now stick to PvE where maybe you could actually get 20 kills or more in a single session of doing crap.
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20 RepliesSnipers are still more widely used. Your argument is invalid.
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Snipers will still dominate in trials, don't worry.
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You lost me at [i]primaries are useless[/i]. I have killed more guardians with hawksaw on these new maps than anything.
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4 RepliesTo anyone saying it takes skill to blink around shotgunning...Yeahhh no. I tried doing that earlier today. Ended up with over 30 kills one game. I'm pretty crappy at crucible for reference. OP weapons and supers ruin PvP, and Bungie's attempts to "balance" it out usually just makes things worse. All that being said the way crucible is currently is fine as long as you don't take it seriously. Like earlier when I was being a blinking shotgunning dbag I was acting like the buttered up deaf man from family guy, many laughs were had. Point being that if you try to make crucible seem legit competitive and serious...Well then your in for a bad time, and are prolly pretty stupid.
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Crucible is Shotgun hell? Sorry did you just play your first ever match today? Even during the sniper meta, shotguns were still all over the place.
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1 ReplyU crying cuz aim assist got nerfed on ur favorite sniper kid?
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3 RepliesCrucible is shotgun hell not because they are overpowered but because the new playlists are mostly close quarters and supremacy is EXTREMELY close quarters. So before you go screaming for shotgun nerfs scream for BUNGIE to change up playlists and map rotation and design.
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Lol...
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ITS SHOTGUN HELL BECAUSE NERFHERDERS LIKE YOU BITCHED ABOUT PRIMARYS UNTIL THEY WERE RENDERED USELESS... You reap what you sow how do you Whiney idiots who blindly charge through doorways even have a saw in this matter.
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Shot guns are the easiest special to counter. Snipers are the hardest and fusions a close second.
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Welcome to Bungie, may I take your order?
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3 RepliesJuggernaut shotgun counter: Jump over them, turn 180 while jumping and shoot them in the back. Melee from behind works - particularly for hunters. [spoiler]Be sure to slow bag them[/spoiler]
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I love it when I see a juggernaut user. Just makes it even better when I stick them with my flux grenade. Lololol.
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Edited by x3CeO_boY: 9/28/2016 6:00:42 AMAwwwww someone crying...lol...whts new... thts what this community is known for...crying for a Nerf...SMH
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Just use a Plan C. Here is a video of a good game I had yesterday. I know these people aren't too great either, but it shows the guns potential.
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Use a hand cannon. Ive been hand cannon shotty since roi and im in heaven. Ive been doing so well
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It takes skill for both game types. If you are good with a shotgun congrats. If you are good with a sniper that's good. It takes skill to run up to a sniper to get a kill, and vice versa. The problem is map dynamics. On a small map of a sniper can be dominate on a shotty map, then that's skill. However if a shotty is better than a sniper on a far ranged map, then that's skill as well. People remember that with the meta changes in place every few months people adapt to survive. I am a sniper, if someone charges me I make the situation benefit me if I can. I say what needs to be addressed are the following. 1. Titans being able to have high armor and still have more agility than a hunter. This is a fact. 2. Better radar. That's right the damn thing is broken, and we all know it. If you crouch in the game you disappear , which is good because it benefits the person to recover or change the situation to better themselves. It's the jumping over a person that makes them "disappear at times" or sometimes the lag. 3. Lag, I have a high range matador. Love it. It's my baby, but when mr. lag swag comes along and kills me with a lower impact shotty with less range, and kills me then here's a problem. I know that there will be latency issues, but lag shouldn't be an advantage to the winning team. Other than what I listed we as a community need to come together and address these issues, guns will be guns. There will always be the one person sniping as there is one with a shotgun. One thing I might ad though , if certain snipers can kill a super in a shot, then the same should be done with shotguns.
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1 ReplyWell haha bungie is pushing their agenda pretty good. Watch the best shotguns get nerfed. Someone predicted the shotgun complaints would come a week after RoI and here it is lol
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Hehe.
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Love it!
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Edited by Nëfërātā: 9/27/2016 11:28:15 PMWell I love to have my shotgun back... but sidearms are also really kickass now... and they always have ammo on respawn. I already feel like with the ammo situation that I wanna run performance bonus and replenish on my secondaries. And last word still kicks butt so you don't ALWAYS need a pumpgun.
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1 ReplyI prefer to snipe, but can get way more kills with a shotgun. So I basically just use a shotty to prove a point and hole a balance update comes quickly.
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It's not really shotguns but special ammo in general. It should spawn alot less or not at all. This would make special weapons, special.
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Fusion rifles are a good counter but wildly inconsistent
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3 RepliesShotgun shield Titan with max speed is broken as shit .