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Edited by folkjack:
7/15/2016 9:37:51 PM
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Please don't make the next raid 'jump dependant'
Title says it all. The thing that took ages in king fall was all the jumping , and sadly if you had some who couldn't jump to save their life then all the jumping puzzles would take forever and the daughters would be a wipe every time it landed on said person. So please don't make the next one like that! I don't mind jumping puzzles but that daughter fight mechanic please leave it to rest.
Edit: I don't know what I expected. Forgot what the forums were like, silly me.
Edit 2: I think people are missing the point. The main gripe I have is that the daughter mechanic is random and if it lands on someone who can't jump then it's a wipe. Raids should be able team work and skill not a lottery on who can jump.
Edit 3: [quote]I think that the issue is really with things being random. See, VoG had issues when bad randoms were teleported to do Oracles on Atheon. CE didn't have any random factors so it was generally stress free. King's Fall has random selection on Daughters which will sometimes be wipe city. So it isn't that jumping is the problem, but not being able to choose who jumps. That, and the fact that everyone needs to know how to do every part of the raid.[/quote]
This is what I was trying to say but failed, thank you Keinamaru
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Edited by Mystic Knight: 7/15/2016 10:10:12 PMI actually like the jumping puzzles. The daughters fight is perfect also otherwise u would have the same person jumping everytime and half of the people would never jump
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I do what i want.
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Jumping is kind of a basic thing. Bungee shouldn't limit themselves because someone hasn't figured out how to jump from platform to platform in the time it took them to become raid ready.
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Then that means that all teammates have to be relied on. So...nope! If one teammate sucks, then he's bringing you guys down until he/she gets it right...
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The raid is an adventure. Make as much jumping as possible.
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If people can't pull their own weight they shouldn't raid.
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Nope. Kings fall is fun.
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No jump sections are fun
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Edited by Seeraphis: 7/15/2016 9:36:48 PMJumping would fall under 'skill' though, would it not? Not meant to be inflammatory - just coming from someone who enjoyed the vertical challenges. Perhaps if it wasn't random?
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You should go check out the twinning post to this.
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I think that the issue is really with things being random. See, VoG had issues when bad randoms were teleported to do Oracles on Atheon. CE didn't have any random factors so it was generally stress free. King's Fall has random selection on Daughters which will sometimes be wipe city. So it isn't that jumping is the problem, but not being able to choose who jumps. That, and the fact that everyone needs to know how to do every part of the raid.
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People just need to learn how to jump. It's pretty sad that people can't do this
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5 RepliesThank you! My X button has been broken since HoW, so I've literally had to be carried through the raid by non-vertically-challenged guardians.
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3 RepliesWhy? Running relic is by FAR the easiest job in the oryx fight.
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Edited by J-Hangdown: 7/15/2016 9:27:38 PMHahaha. That's like people being too lazy to make the call outs during priest or too lazy to hold gaze during fatso. I love raiding with those people. You want me to do the easiest parts? No problem, I'll sit back and collect the rewards.
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1 ReplyYou said it yourself, it's about teamwork and skill. Everyone contributes, everyone should have a basic understanding of the raid mechanics. What you're asking for is lack of teamwork. You would rather sweep some members of your fireteam under the rug for the daughters encounter.
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Jump-and-shoot man only has two abilities. You're kind of limiting their options here. [spoiler]To proceed to the Raid boss you must first answer me my riddles three.[/spoiler]
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I know, because jumping is so difficult… You should try Mario kart, but they have jumping in that too unfortunately
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1 ReplyJumping by itself is fine (ships/dick wall) but do t make it like daughters/oryx. That's my 2 cents.
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2 Replieswell in the short clips we saw of the next raid, we saw 6 guardians jump all over the wall. So keep praying!
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Lol I like your first edit. You must always remember who your audience is.
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I like running relic because I find activating platforms in the correct order even more stressful
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You might have a good point, Jack. Cuz, even though I am good at and enjoy jumping puzzles (too many years wth Super Mario and that busty girl who raids tombs) - the point is : If at least one of your raid buddies suck at jumping, you're all stuck waiting. [i]And I used to take that time downloading at editing porn but Bungie says that disrupts their server's connection to keeping me in the game[/i] Bungie's getting as jealous and needy as my old lady.😇
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Agree completely. I want to shoot my guns. Not bounce around. That's what the Tower is for! Lol
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The daughters mechanic was put in so everyone had to learn how to do it. Just like how after a while they changed atheon to randomly teleporting people
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While I would definitely be interested in more variety next raid, I don't have any issue with the jumping puzzles. They're super easy for me.
