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Edited by RingersCheckmate:
7/6/2016 2:29:39 AM
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About the special weapon controversy.
I don't really expect everyone to read through the entire post, just the section you fall into. This way we can (hopefully) open people's eyes on the controversy and lessen the salt a little.
So far, we as a community of the many things we divide ourselves on, have also divided ourselves into these categories; [b]people who hate shotguns[/b], [b]people who hate snipers[/b], rarely, [b]people who hate fusions[/b], and people on the line and not really upset. I like the last people.
[b][u]Shotguns[/u][/b]
I can't say that I'm one of them though, I really hate shotgunners. To me, they take no gun skill, just close the gap with a blink or a slide and it's a free kill! Aiming doesn't matter just aim in the general direction! But I know that's not all there is to it.
[spoiler]shotgunners need to be much more aware of the map than snipers, they need to know the right time to pop around and rush and when not to. To counter them is simple, it's just to be more aware of your surroundings using your radar and making a bigger gap to close.[/spoiler]
[b][u]Snipers[/u][/b]
People who hate snipers, think that you don't need to move at all, that you can just camp one hallway the entire game and profit off of it. That it takes no skill at all.
[spoiler]That, isn't entirely true though. Snipers need a decent amount of aim to profit off of headshots, and bodyshotting can really hurt a players ammo count. And countering a sniper is just as easy as countering a shotgunner. If you get sniped down a hallway, don't go to the same hallway. You're going to get sniped again, and at that point you're feeding him. Get a easy flank on them, there's only so many long sight lines in destinys small maps. [/spoiler]
I don't really want to try to justify people's anger (if it even exists) towards sidearms and fusion rifles. They both are commonly looked at as balanced and both take a certain situation and can both be countered easily.
But anyways, I hope I opened someone's eyes with this post, and made people feel a little less angry or a little more aware of how to counter the special that they hate. It's a heated topic, and I'm sure I'll get hate, but I'll deal. Can't please everyone.
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SNIPERS!!!!! YES I'M SHOUTING BECAUSE I'M DUCKING PISSED WITH THEM. NOT BECAUSE OF AIM ASSIST OR THE FACT THAT I GET QUICK SCOPED HEAD SHOTTED FROM 10FT AWAY...IT'S THE LACK OF DUCKING FLINCH ON ALL SNIPERS. IF I GET THE JUMP ON A SNIPER AND I'M PELTING THE LITTLE BITCH IN THE DUCKING HEAD WITH CONSTANT FIRE FROM LOW IMPACT PRIMARIES TO HIGH IMPACT HEAVY MACHINE GUNS, THE HOMO SNIPER STILL HEAD SHOTS ME NO MATTER HOW CLOSE OR FAR THE ENCOUNTER IS. I'M SORRY BUT IF SOMEONE IS GETTING CONSTANTLY HIT BY FIRE THEN IT SHOULD BE DAMN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO GET HEAD SHOTTED BACK FROM A SNIPER THAT'S GETTING PELTED BY CONSTANT FIRE!!!!! I GOT A 1000YD STARE WITH AMBUSH AND HIDDEN HAND A MONTH AGO AND USED IT IN THE CRUCIBLE. I WANTED TO THROW THE CONTROLLER AT THE DUCKING SCREEN WHEN I SAW FIRST HAND HOW THERE WAS LITTLE TO NO MOVEMENT OF THE SCOPE RETICLE WHEN I WAS GETTING CONSTANTLY HIT BY GUNFIRE. SUCH ABSOLUTE BULL CHIT!!! DON'T NERF SNIPER AIM ASSIST, DON'T NERF SNIPER ZOOM, JUST ADD A LOT OF FLINCHING TO SNIPERS WHEN ZOOMED AND GETTING HIT BY CONSTANT FIRE!!!!! CASE AND POINT I SHOT FIRST AT SOMEONE WITH THUNDERLORD AND AFTER THE FIRST BULLET HIT THE BITCH, THEY SWITCHED TO THEIR SNIPER AND HEAD SHOTTED ME RIGHT AFTER I FIRED 4 ROUNDS!!!! WTF!!!!! ADD FLINCHING TO SNIPERS!!!!!!
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2 RepliesSo sick and tired of being 12 shot by these god damned op sidearms [spoiler]satire[/spoiler]
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10 RepliesIt takes more skill to be consistently successful with shotguns than snipers. One weapon demands that you get point blank with your enemies. The other does not.
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Edited by Pave0581: 7/6/2016 6:27:27 AMDifference between snipers and shotguns. Sniper: Sit at a fairly long range, with decent cover, have plenty of time to react to someone moving towards you. Aim assist helps. They have range, distance and cover, as well as reaction time. Shotgun: Consistently and reliably closing the gap, which isn't easy. Barely any reaction time. No cover Base melee range before the shotgun range falls off No distance, barely any range, no cover, very little reaction time. A sniper can make mistakes and live. A shotgunner makes a mistake and 9/10 times their dead. Then their are Fusion and Sidearm users who I love.
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I don't mind at all
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1 ReplySick of Primaries being terrible
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2 RepliesI like how you didn't even give a statement about fusions, I honestly would like to know what people think about them since that's mostly all I use in pvp now.
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I feel like at this point bumgie just needs to start over, the maps are completely screwed. First it was run out and get fusioned across the map when they were godly. Then it was get blinked and slide shottyed by xxx420pumpsxX. Now its the next wannabe streamer pub stomping my team of 220 light kinderguardians with his red dot sniper scope and negative sway. Tbh i dont even know anymore, i think all the special weapons in this game are in awful places and one has always been in an even worse place.
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2 RepliesEdited by EmperorBalpatine: 7/6/2016 3:50:56 AMI don't like snipers just because it slows the game down. The house of wolves meta was extremely broken but I probably had the most fun because everyone ran around and shot each other in the dick. Now you can't turn a corner because there's 3 snipers zoomed in waiting to take some poor guardians head off. It slows the game down so much because the only counter is to snipe back so no one is running around having fun anymore. It's just a contest to see who can sweat the most while staring down a hallway
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I find it very fishy how I(and everyone else) can take all this flinch from a pulse or scout and still land a headshot with a sniper. There is no way everyone is that good. And I havn't played regularly since November, I'm rusty as hell.
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1 Reply51% of the voters are lying sacks of shit.
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9 RepliesCountersniping isn't that easy. If they already know you're there and are hardscoping on your position, you're going to die the instant they see your head pop out.
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5 RepliesShotguns may be the answer to shoulder charge but nothing goes against the enigma of juggernaut
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1 ReplyEdited by Sol: 7/6/2016 3:53:18 AMLet's just revert back to the hand cannon shot gun meta, reduce the impact on high impact shotguns and make body shots on snipers deal 80 damage across the board. Let's also buff autos to the Suros meta, keep fusions like they are now, Pulse rifles like the were in the pulse meta and scouts, let's increase damage for all archetypes by 8.5% except the archetype of low RoF and high impact. Now everything is op, snipers still work, shotguns work, everything works. Let's also make grenade that causes ticks of damage in a AoE do the same damage and last the same amount of time. BOOM, PERFECT METATO!!!
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I find myself angry when I get killed by snipers and shotgunners but what really makes these weapons op is lag.
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4 RepliesI hate snipers because they destroy the flow of a game. Instead of moving around the map fighting, you sit and wait for someone to walk into your sights. Makes games take forever. They're just not very fun.
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A good sniper between B & C on Shores of Time can destroy. 3 long sightlines and no easy flank. That being said, I don't usually have a problem with snipers. Like you said, learn where snipers camp, use caution, if you get sniped, don't run right back to the same spot.
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4 RepliesAlways hated snipers. In every game. It's essentially a weapon that hits harder than every weapon (other than rockets) at any range
