From the 3rd day of destiny launching, I've been playing almost daily. Around December 2015, I decided to take a break from destiny, simply because I was bored and I had other stuff to do at the time. Fast forward about half a year, in slowly getting back onto destiny.
Along my break and coming back after half a year, you know what I picked up? I came back to this forum and realized that the same shit is still raging a storm. The same nerfs and the same buffs, the same add this and the same add that. Nothing has changed on the forums. Now, me diving headfirst into the game, not knowing what the meta is, not glitching out anything, I came in and just played. Simply put on my headset and played.
You realized that if you just took away all of this nonsense mindset we ALL have/had, the game becomes so much better. Instead of staying I top of everything and trying to perfect myself, trying to get the best of the best, trying to find the quickest shortcut, trying to obtain the most rewards, I just played. Stop worrying about the glitches and the nerfs and buffs and OPs and everything, just play. If you die, you die. You kill, you kill. That's that. It takes off so much more stress just enjoying yourself rather than putting barriers on your playstyle and your enjoyment due to things like weapons and balancing.
So I ask you, please, put down the phone, get off the forums, and just play the game. Play some crucible, do some strikes, talk to friends, meet new friends. Just [u]have fun.[/u] realizing that this is just a game, and realizing that the purpose of the game is to have fun, makes the game fun.
[b]i want to make something clear:[/b]
Seems like some of you are misunderstanding this post. People are pointing out the topic about lags and in game glitches, and I agree. Ultimately these things are very annoying, and needs fixing. However this post is more driven towards people who have their heads in the numbers, (need this, buff that, change this, take this away, add that) those types of things. My realization today was simply that after you stop counting how many times you got killed to this weapon, or how stupidly powerful that weapon is, then you really do start to enjoy the game as a game.
Stop trying to cheese your way through raids, don't try to obtain the most loot, don't try to go on a super grind for the best things, don't try to try hard you way through the game, stop chasing that perfect k/d. It's always healthy to set goals for yourself, but it's very unhealthy to always grind and grind at it none stop without taking a break and enjoy the moment. It's much better to view a game as a game rather than a chore. This concept applies for both real life and in game.
[quote]Gamers don't want to have fun, as seen with Crota cheesing, division cheesing, camping in cod. It's not fun, it's the rewards, loot or high score. Gamers don't want to say I had fun, they want to say I'm the best.
I have never followed the meta, the meta just slowly rolls around to fit my play style before going away. But that's it, other players crave YouTubers to tell them how to play, they don't want to use what's fun they want to use what's best.
It's a simple mentality, and it's ubiquitous to our gaming culture.[/quote] -Billy Don't Rage
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Want to know what I realised today? Overwatch is out C ya Chumps !!!!
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What play a game for fun ? What is this you speak off ? But on a serious note glad to see someone else just play the game for fun and not care about what others use and shit like that, its a shame most people treat games like its their job.
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1 ReplyYou're slow.. This was really obvious from the beginning.
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This guy gets it, and thats how I've played since the alpha. Yeah i set goals and try to be good, but im just doing what i enjoy, just playing the damn game. Sometimes I'll look for a raid, sometimes I'll run heroic stikes, sometimes I'll go into crucible, sometimes i go into patrol and watch my rep slowly increase. Whatever I'm doing, im doing it because im enjoying a game i like.
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Very cogent, and I agree completely. There's no point playing the game when it turns into work. The only way to avoid turning it into work, is to remember that we're here to play. There's nothing wrong with setting goals and having desires. Where it goes south is when those goals and desires overshadow everything else; when my desire to get a Zen Meteor makes those last 12 exotic weapon drops useless in my eyes, because [i]they weren't Zen Meteors, dammit!!![/i] But you know what? That last 321 primary exotic was good for infusing my beloved MIDA, and I had a great time running around Venus with it this morning, just popping Fallen and Taken heads off. It was [b]fun![/b] And that's what Destiny is about. That's what any good game is about. Thanks for your post, Jeff. Welcome back. See you around the Tower.
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4 RepliesThis all sounds good until you consider the fact that most people (myself included) have way more fun when we're winning, or at least playing well. The best way to make that happen is to use the things that give you an edge, thus a meta forms. Most of us don't have enough fun using what we want while dying and losing to keep doing so. Thus nerfs are called for the op weapons until a persons favorite weapon becomes op. It's an endless cycle that's persisted in every shooter from the dawn of time. Unfortunately telling people to just have fun with dying is not going to change anything.
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I can make Destiny a million times better? That's not true, since I can't remove Thorn.
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2 Replies[quote]You realized that if you just took away all of this nonsense mindset we ALL have/had, the game becomes so much better. [/quote] Destiny is an extremely fun game and maybe the most fun game this generation. However, Destiny has fundamental gameplay issues and these issues create the so called "nonsense mindset". This is not a case of "the tail wagging the dog". Destiny is the game with little to no story, a terrible reward system, unbalanced guns, awful multiplayer maps, and one-hit kill weapons on spawn. Ignoring those problems does not make them go away. Playing for fun does not make them go away. Censoring criticism does not make them go away. Destiny is also not an unchanging force of nature. There is a game developer we can lobby for changes. And we have seen positive changes in the last year and a half, the April 12th update being the best of them. Keep your voices heard. I agree with OP on the futile chase for loot but disagree wholeheartedly with OP's advice to "Stop trying to cheese your way through raids". If I am truly going to chill out and enjoy playing Destiny, then that means playing my way, and my way of playing Destiny seems antithetical to the way Bungie wants me to play Destiny. My best moment in Year 1 was running the first two parts of Crota's End solo. It was a total cheese to launch from the rock by the lamp and then stand in the back of the sword bearer's room. And it was glorious.
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WORT WORT WORT
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Jeff! It's been awhile
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When you said people complain about needing stuff, for me Doctrine, I would complain about it all the time but what I decided to do was use Atheon's Epilogue and holy shit. It's good. That and the Vacancy. It's the best fun I've had in ages. Just my input and opinion.
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[spoiler]Wort [/spoiler]
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before i get away from the post, yes you are right. people need to chill out, relax and play it like a game instead of some life or death struggle for internet bragging rights. finally at least 1 other person has figured this out and gets the point of video games. now, that being said... i've been saying that since VoG came out and people started the elitist BS that this community is now RAMPANT with... enjoy having fun? screw you play the way i want you to. enjoy playing the game without worrying about being the best? screw you, if you are not the best you are not allowed to have fun. people don't care, the people who play this game seem to get off on keeping everyone else from having any fun and enjoying anything, and if you don't join their way of thinking you are some kind of crazy person who should not only be disregarded as a human being but also shouted out of the whole game. and at this point even the argument of "well we have fun being the best" doesn't hold water any more because most of the time they are so dead set on being the best they actively stop anyone else from doing anything... you might be wasting your time talking into a void of scum bags, but at least you tried... lord knows i did, and all that got me was absolute hatred for the destiny community.
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There's a reason why I don't look at what gets buffed and nerfed anymore. I was mad because auto rifles sucked for a long period of time but now it's almost all I use
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Edited by TK: 5/23/2016 10:18:36 PMFantastic post. Thank you OP. You can easily burn yourself out if you just focus on being the best, getting the best loot, always chasing that carrot on the end of the moving stick. I miss the days where all I played for was to be at the top of the post carnage report in Halo, and we had so much fun. No loot, no grind, no misery. I made friends in all of the Halo games on Xbox Live, that I still talk to today. We should go back to basics, just have fun.
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That last part, i enjoyed cheesing crota solo... I don't see why people think it isnt (i guess with a team its more about the speed, but i like the challenge) and the weapon buffs/nerfs need to be pointed out, if not they wont be fixed and even if they are fixed, without people saying whats wrong and right, bungie have no way to tell if a gun is OP, they would only nerf guns that are overused and buff those that arent, what im saying is that i see your point and destiny is more fun when you play laxed in pvp with a team u looked for on lfg but i also see why these things have to happen for the hardcore fans and players
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Edited by yo are mom lol: 5/23/2016 8:46:52 PMExactly. You'll like the game more if you don't salt and just laugh about it
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kind of lost track of what the point was but.... I do enjoy the heck out of just messing around doing patrols, testing weapons, trying to solo things (finally got Crota solo), etc. getting some loot and curating my own inventory of weapons/gear is like a game within game, setting guys up as faction reps. mayhem clash is probably the most "plain ol' fun" pvp in destiny- hard to take too serious when everything is going boom
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What that Billy Don't Rage guy said I sort of agree with save for one little thing! A lot of gamers want to have fun, they live for that experience and I can say I definitely do too. However, I really do believe gaming has become too mainstream and the developers are starting to cater to that. The YouTubers aren't helping very much either.
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You have a beautiful speech that honestly makes no sense. You tell people to stop trying to win while ALL forms of gaming is about winning. Being better and always trying to improve. This can be both fun and taken to the extreme. There are those that want nothing more to win and be at the top of this games charts, others truly don't care. While we should all play just to have fun you shouldn't say don't be competitive. You're saying throw away our mindset of the game and just play. This gives no incentive to play, with that mindset every game is perfect cause you're not analyzing it. As a gamer of many I can say you are wrong. But again, beautiful speech.
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Sounds like you were talking to a bad Billy.
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This made me cry. So beautiful 😌
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Totally agree. I quit for a while and got back on a few weeks ago and I'm just playing having a good time. I'm not too concerned about all the loot and completing every activity on every character every week and its so much more fun than doing everything like they're my weekly chores.
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I agree with you. This game should also have an offline mode.
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[b]DESTINY NEEDS [i]YOU[/i][/b] ~Uncle Speaker
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[quote]From the 3rd day of destiny launching, I've been playing almost daily. Around December 2015, I decided to take a break from destiny, simply because I was bored and I had other stuff to do at the time. Fast forward about half a year, in slowly getting back onto destiny. Along my break and coming back after half a year, you know what I picked up? I came back to this forum and realized that the same shit is still raging a storm. The same nerfs and the same buffs, the same add this and the same add that. Nothing has changed on the forums. Now, me diving headfirst into the game, not knowing what the meta is, not glitching out anything, I came in and just played. Simply put on my headset and played. You realized that if you just took away all of this nonsense mindset we ALL have/had, the game becomes so much better. Instead of staying I top of everything and trying to perfect myself, trying to get the best of the best, trying to find the quickest shortcut, trying to obtain the most rewards, I just played. Stop worrying about the glitches and the nerfs and buffs and OPs and everything, just play. If you die, you die. You kill, you kill. That's that. It takes off so much more stress just enjoying yourself rather than putting barriers on your playstyle and your enjoyment due to things like weapons and balancing. So I ask you, please, put down the phone, get off the forums, and just play the game. Play some crucible, do some strikes, talk to friends, meet new friends. Just [u]have fun.[/u] realizing that this is just a game, and realizing that the purpose of the game is to have fun, makes the game fun. [b]i want to make something clear:[/b] Seems like some of you are misunderstanding this post. People are pointing out the topic about lags and in game glitches, and I agree. Ultimately these things are very annoying, and needs fixing. However this post is more driven towards people who have their heads in the numbers, (need this, buff that, change this, take this away, add that) those types of things. My realization today was simply that after you stop counting how many times you got killed to this weapon, or how stupidly powerful that weapon is, then you really do start to enjoy the game as a game. Stop trying to cheese your way through raids, don't try to obtain the most loot, don't try to go on a super grind for the best things, don't try to try hard you way through the game, stop chasing that perfect k/d. It's always healthy to set goals for yourself, but it's very unhealthy to always grind and grind at it none stop without taking a break and enjoy the moment. This concept applies for both real life and in game. [quote]Gamers don't want to have fun, as seen with Crota cheesing, division cheesing, camping in cod. It's not fun, it's the rewards, loot or high score. Gamers don't want to say I had fun, they want to say I'm the best. I have never followed the meta, the meta just slowly rolls around to fit my play style before going away. But that's it, other players crave YouTubers to tell them how to play, they don't want to use what's fun they want to use what's best. It's a simple mentality, and it's ubiquitous to our gaming culture.[/quote] -Billy Don't Rage[/quote] https://youtu.be/nfWlot6h_JM