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Edited by TheSneakerFlip:
4/10/2016 4:53:19 AM
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Why even have exotic weapons?
What is the point of having exotic weapons anymore? Exotics are considered exotics because they held certain advantages over other legendaries. Now with all the crying and whining for nerfs, Bungie is just negating and taking away all the exotic perks. TLW Perk is now non existent. The White Nail perk that made the Black Hammer superior was changed to pull ammo from reserves when turned into the Black Spindle. All they had to do was make the Black Hammer an exotic and kept the perk. Mida multitool is being nerfed as well. Gjallarhorn wolfpack rounds were nerfed. Vex Mythoclast prenerf was a beast. Hawkmoon perk was nerfed. The Truth will be receiving less rockets when you pick up heavies in crucible.
Why even have exotics when theyre just going to nerf them? Why not just get rid of exotics and make all weapons legendary since you want to make it all the same and generic? Exotics are supposed to give you an advantage, thats the whole point of having them. Instead lazy, entitled people cry and complain because theyre being outgunned by exotics they themselves can earn. Get better, get the weapons other people are using against you and fight back. Get better and stop feeling sorry for yourself and cry for a nerf because you are tired of dying.
Edit: If exotics are merely for the "looks" and are supposed to only be "unique" and "different" but provide no advantage, whether slight or a large amout, then how come you can only equip one piece of exotic at a time? Class items might be more cosmetic than anything but you can't tell me a Guardian wearing all exotic gear and equipped with all exotic weapons has no advantage over one with a full set of legendary gear and weapons.
To the ones saying it's not more powerful but more "unique". How much more unique will exotics be when Bungie is going after the very perks that make exotics "unique"? If exotics don't give an advantage why wouldn't they let you use more than one at a time? Is it because it would be unfair? If they hold no advantage how can they be unfair?
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1 ReplyHave you also noticed that instead of buffing weapons Bungie would rather nerf them? I was using a fusion rifle and I realized that it didn't get nerfed in the patch. I realized that instead of buffing fusions, they nerfed shotguns and sniper. I understand that it was the Pvp side of things that caused Bungie to nerf them and not about fusion rifles, but I found that interesting nonetheless
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3 RepliesYou are so right. Instead of nerfing exotics I believe EVERY exotic should be "OP" so you have to pick and choose which one to use. If you are better at long range encounters you should have more options than the MIDA. Better and close? More options than the invective. Nerf OP legendaries like Doctrine, but otherwise [i]every[/i] exotic should be OP in one way or another.
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1 ReplyI really dont understand the cry for nerfs in general. Buffing everything all the time would result in way too quick kill times, meaning they'd eventually have to buff the health to compensate. Its far more logical to look at a problem and fix it, then look at a problem and fix everything else in the world to accommodate for it. Buffs happen when theres actual under performance, and most problems in destiny are weapons out performing. All in all calling to buff everything would result in basically what a nerf does, just with bigger numbers in the end
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The first few sentences alone killed brain cells.
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I did find it stupid how truth is getting less rockets. It has tripod.
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Early on in Destiny, many exotics INCLUDING THORN were useless. We got on the forums and asked for them to feel exotic. Bungie replied that exotic weapons should not over power other weapons, but that they should have special situational advantages and feel/operate as if they are exotic.
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13 RepliesDid they mention new exotics with the update? I just heard about zen meteor.
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Don't forget that Bungie also buffs some exotics to feel more exotic. Just look at Bad Juju, Super Good Advice, Dragon's Breath, and the soon to be improved Dreg's Promise.
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2 Replieskeep exotics remove equip restrictions. that's my vote.
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I would argue that the laziness is from Bungie. Instead of creating a lot of cool OP weapons, just a couple rise to the top every few months and then they nerf them back to oblivion.
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Exotics? Nerf wusses made them obsolete.
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Why not just remove exotics from the crucible period. This way we can still have over powered stuff for everything else. There's plenty of dope stuff in the legendary group. Heck use the different faction gear for cryin out loud haha. Dang it #bungie quit nerfin everything. Try out this idea. It could work. Or make light levels in the crucible thus needing to alter our gear accordingly. Or a combo of both. I suck in the crucible anyway so it won't bother me hahaha. I really just prefer exotics against enemies... Specially "stupid overpowered I can shoot through walls" taken.
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I'm just disappointed I did the exotic bounty for thorn and not only is it nerfed but not brought to year 2...I 10000% agree with changes for PvP but it was my favorite PvE guns....rip
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8 Replies[quote]Exotics are considered exotics because they held certain advantages over other legendaries.[/quote] This isn't necessarily true. Exotics were supposed to have perks, aesthetics and gunplay mechanics that make them unique. They were never intended to be [i]better[/i] than legendary weapons/armours, just more unique. Bungie didn't take away the The Last Word perk at all. They took away the damage modifier that made it a two-shot kill up close. You clearly weren't paying attention when they went over this. The White Nail perk was nerfed for the LEGENDARY weapon Black Hammer, you said it yourself. Infinite ammo should not be in PvE or PvP. Ice Breaker doesn't have infinite ammo, just in case you were going to counter with that. MIDA's nerf won't change the time-to-kill, so who cares? The gun makes it extremely difficult to out-shoot it in a gunfight. Gjallarhorn was nerfed for PvE reasons, not PvP. All rocket launchers are overpowered... Why single out one that's only a tiny bit more powerful than most of the others? It was basically easy mode for PvE and it's still really good in the old PvE content and the Crucible. Vex nerf was needed. Hawkmoon perk wasn't nerfed, it was fixed. Oh no... Less rockets in the Crucible. Somebody save us. Okay okay okay. Here's what I don't understand about your post. You tell people to go out and earn the exotics that people are complaining about (MIDA, for example)... MIDA is, by far, the most used primary weapon in the game. It's safe to say that the people who are complaining probably have the weapon. Good grief. "Get better"? Stop. Don't say stupid things.
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They are fun for mixing things up. It keeps the game from getting overly stagnant.
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To be nerfed into legendaries why else?
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What a good looking question.
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3 RepliesThe people calling for all the exotics to get nerfed are mostly year 2 players that cry about wanting to use whatever gun they want whenever they want and still be competitive. The fact is all types of guns have there strengths and their weaknesses but they still keep trying to put that circle block into a square hole and insisting it should go there. Most never raided vog or crota and held weapons that year 1 players treasured. The constant nerfing has lead to guns that are balanced even to bungie and they still nerf them. I agree that exotics should stand out.
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It is mainly the unskilled players who cry for the nerfs. They somehow think making guns weaker/easier to use is going to make them better or cause them to die less. WRONG. All it means is that the SKILLED players are going to destroy them with a different set of weapons.
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5 RepliesThe reason why exotics get balanced of "nerfed" is because if it's perk is over powered then there is no reason to use any other weapon. Bungie wants to allow people to use what ever they want and still be competitive and fair, and for PvE it's so nothing makes all of the activities easy because of an op perk. Now I'm also not defending bungie for applying harsh nerfs to weapon that make them useless but I'm just giving you the facts.
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Cry meee aaaa rivvverrr
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3 RepliesBecause of PvP and KDR butthurt.
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Edited by Stormhawk118: 4/9/2016 4:11:14 PMJust them looking towards pvp rather than pve, they cant really help it though, when destiny came out, there wasn't much to do other than crucible, there was and still is tons more complaints towards it than pve, so bungie, like a good developer, that [i]does[/i] listen to its community, began implementing fixes where the most complaints were directed, starting a never ending chain of nerfs/buffs that leads us to now [spoiler]new pvp gamemodes and maps also cost considerably less money and time to create and implement into the game than hiring voice actors and making new story/pve material[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesCatering to the PvP community has literally destroyed this game.
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They're pandering to the kids in pvp who think being mediocre and getting an award for just taking part is how the world works. Sadly this is going to keep going as long as games cater to younger generations of gamers. You're seeing this in movies too: everything is pg13 and then unrated on dvd for the adults but sadly gamers don't get an option of an unrated edition so we're stuck with watered down crap.
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1 ReplyEdited by NISMO: 4/9/2016 3:13:47 PMThe sounds that they make lol. Or the fact that you can have a sniper and a primary. Or fusion as a heavy. But yes I agree people complain cause either they don't have them, don't like them, or can't figure out how to use there's. Sucks that people are like that...
