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Edited by Unicronic: 8/18/2015 6:50:19 AM
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Year 2 - Leave Year 1 problems in the past.

I'm a beta player with well over 1,000 hours clocked. I've done pretty much everything in the game to date. I love Destiny, I am not a Destiny hater. But enjoying something doesn't mean we should not push for constant improvement. Year 1 has been a fun but flawed experience. A lot of mistakes have been made and a lot of learning has taken place. From the start of year 2 excuses are no longer acceptable from Bungie. We expect all of the learning to be put to good use. What does leaving year 1 problem behind mean? I think we should expect the following: - No more obvious raid cheeses, for example despawning enemies or pushing/falling off cliffs. - QA weapons for obvious issues such as Black Hammer. Black Hammer was a raid weapon that didn't work in the raid. That is inexcusable. - Improved AI, no more sitting on a rock to avoid or delay encounters. PoE and Crota's End are culprits. - I've removed the leashes line after much thought. I want enemies to pursue us though and not give up when we enter a certain area. Strikes are big culprits currently. - No more skipping sophisticated encounters in favour of cranking the difficulty dial to 11 - No more dumb loot drops. A player should never get two Vex Mythoclast in one run etc. - Weapon balancing and fix patches issued regularly. Black Hammer was fixed after Crota's End's relevance expired. Necrochasm will be 6 month old when it finally becomes worthy of welding for reasons other than laughs. - No more invincible cheats in PVP. You have the stats in real time, act upon them. - No more loot not being received because all slots are full. You know storage space is insufficient. - No more blue engrams awarded to players who get 40 kills in crucible. - And finally a wishful dream, no more players getting booted because Destiny has barebones networking in place. I love Destiny, I have enjoyed year 1 but now you have to put 365 days of feedback into action. Do not let us down. EDIT 1: Something obvious I forgot that many have said is for better efforts at storytelling or rather some effort at all. I got use to no story so didn't even think about that. EDIT 2: Even though I stated things clearly here there are several who don't get it. I understand that bugs and glitches and cheeses will always exist. What should not exist is the same bugs and glitches and cheeses. Armed with knowledge of year 1, year 2 should be a better experience for everyone. EDIT 3: We are trending, thank you guardians for your support. We all love Destiny and want year 2 to be fueled by the wisdom gained in year 1. EDIT 4: I've changed the title from 'year 1 - no excuses' to 'year 1 - Leave year 1 problems in the past' as 'no excuses' has created a misconception that year 2 should be perfect. EDIT 5: Nearly 150 shows of support and 600 comments. Thank. This thread is evolving like the game is. We've all walked a similar path in Destiny, we don't want to retread through the same problem areas as we have already. EDIT 6: It seems some of the community did not get Black Hammer until the problems were fixed. Black Hammer dropped for many in December 2014. The perks 'white nail' and 'hive disruptor' conflicted leading to the latter perk being disabled and only being fixed around May 2015 some 6 months later. As a minimum, all raid weaponry should be tested to make sure they will work as intended in the raid. EDIT 7: It also appears that there are the usual people who read the title and think this is a self-centered post. Any one who has taken the time to read through the original pre-edit content (thank you if you have) will know that this is about highlighting common issues we experienced in year 1 and not having them carry over to year 2.
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  • It's impossible to get two Vex's from the same run.

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    • Edited by N_Chuckels: 8/19/2015 2:12:35 PM
      Happy New Year!

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    • Here's to year 2. 😃

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    • In year 2 I'd like to see the cry babies in the Destiny forums who want everything to be perfect and flawless to STFU & GTFO.....

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      • Edited by BOBAKthePRODIGY: 8/18/2015 7:33:09 AM
        [quote]I love Destiny, I have enjoyed year 1 but now you have to put 365 days of feedback into action.[/quote] Looking at that list I see 365 days of feedback.....our paid Beta test game. But instead of any sort of real appreciation, we get hype and Moments of Triumph. What an awesome Year One. Lol.

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      • Games of this nature takes time to get right. We are dealing with a huge community, a hybrid MMORPG game, a community of gamers with a clear cut between the casuals and the competitive, and such high expectations. Year 1 was bound to have its mistakes for such a great undertaking. I commend Bungie because they have done well despite the criticism and some missteps along the way. But I won't hold them to a expectation of perfection with Year 2. That's impossible. It's all part of the growing process. The question is, what can Bungie [i]and[/i] the community can stand to learn from the Year 1 experience. While Bungie made their mistakes, we have as well. So as this game grows, so should the community's outlook and approach to this game. In essence, you should want to feel a part of this community and if you're a Guardian, you should want to help Bungie achieved a balanced game goal with creative ideas and implementations. All we should be doing is supporting them in the most positive way possible. Bungie, you can't let us down. Even if you hit a stumbling block, we will still support. Show me a perfect human or a perfect gaming studio and I will show you a rooster who can sing "Billy Jean" by Michael Jackson. So here's to Year 2! Congrats Bungie. I love how much this game has grown and you got our support, no matter the ups and downs.

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        • I do agree with many of you're observations, as an older gamer I have found that Destiny has managed to hold my interest for a year! That in itself is no mean achievement. I clearly love the game and plan to continue playing well beyond TTK. Will the year one issues go? Yes I feel they will, but only over time, and just as with year one, year two will bring its own issues with it of course. With over 20 years of gaming behind me I have found Destiny to be a great balance between all that is good in video games today and have found myself sharing the highs and lows of Destiny's first year of life. For me I hope that year two will bring a more immersive story and try to give everyone a little bit of the awe and wonder of new discoveries and a storyline that will interest and motivate players beyond what we have presently seen. That I suspect this will take time.....

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        • CUSTOM GAMES NO MORE SWEATIES

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          • I think the biggest thing is if they notice a problem, be it with weapon balance, raid boss glitches, and so on, it needs to get fixed right away. Having them say "we know, we've heard you" but then do nothing for 6-7 months is unacceptable.

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            • We payed $60+ to beta test their game for Year 1. There should be no reason that it isn't what we asked for for Year 2.

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              • You are dreaming if you think they are going to do any of the things you've listed.....just wait and see. [spoiler]Not that I'd be upset if they got have of what you listed done in Year 2[/spoiler]

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              • Edited by Luckdog26: 8/18/2015 6:16:42 AM
                Black Hammer didn't work in the Raid? It worked [b]pretty damn good[/b] for me. Huge areas perfect for sniping, almost all Hive enemies have huge critical hit areas for precision shots, and plenty of majors for the extra damage. What didn't work about that? Your list does read as being from someone with little to no understanding of game development, and no appreciation of the effort that Bungie employees have put in to deliver this game. So yeah, despite your declaration that you aren't a hater, you read a little like one.

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                • Just give us a public test server to test all this. Help us help you.

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                • Wasnt ttk made a few years back? Doubt its been done in the last 6 months.

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                • It's a learning experience for all of us. It seems like Bungie is trying, but only time will tell.

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                • Edited by ColNapalm: 8/18/2015 1:16:24 AM
                  The biggest year one problems are Bungie's organization wide emotional immaturity, maternalistic attitude and hysteria. Did our little girl cut her first tooth, adopt potty training or graduate? If not, I think I'll still watch for old habits, thanks.

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                • It seems we paid $60-100 for an open Beta. They've said they're streamlining the game and making it better and all that but those may be broken promises as usual. Let's see what they really have to offer before rushing on ahead. "The biggest Raid yet"--- I heard this during the days before Crota's arrival. You're post makes a lot of sense so let's see if they will truly fix it.

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                • How could you get two Vex in one run ??? Otherwise, I fully agree with your post. Let's see, if Bungie will REALLY deliver in September...

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                  • Nothing is worse than playing Iron Banner and NOT getting Iron banner gear.

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                  • Yep, I completely agree with this. But I think that some of these issues can't be fixed unless they do a proper Destiny 2.

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                    • Yes. Hell yes. Hell mother-blam!-ing yeah!

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                    • Black hammer always worked in CE though? Its great for death singer. Just because a gun isn't useful a whole raid doesn't mean its useless.

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                      • my wish for year 2 is no to see post like i am a beta tester i love destiny, i have 10.00 hours but i want this and this and this and thissssssssssss.

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                        • You don't want cheeses, but you want leashes gone. Those're to prevent kiting cheeses. Although Destiny skips out on the standard "Mob becomes invincible/heals fully until it returns to its home point" that MMOs use on leashes.

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                          • They said they will be fixing the loot system. Meaning if you already have something, it's much less likely to drop again.

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