As someone who enjoys challenge in destiny this is an abysmal change and was completely unneeded. If you are a player who likes challenge you should have it available as an option. Raising the floor of the challenge to make normal remedial activities demand your utmost attention and loadout optimization is exhausting.

They hate new players. And they seem to hate the rest of their community. Doing this again with no loot increases is insane. I hate to keep repeating this, but the content creators and now the speedrunners are running destiny into the ground. There seems to be no location normal players can give bungie actual feedback. And it shows.

I swear, the only reason to grind power levels is only to gain access to play higher tier content that bungie has locked. Thats it. Whats the point of grinding higher level gear when it means nothing in endgame? The whole point of leveling up is to make the game easier. We earned that -blam!-. We didnt do it to get max level and then play at -50 under the level you just grinded to achieve that MATCHES that activity requirement. Besides, the players themselves have the option to make the strike/dungeon/raid more challenging if they want by using different weapons, gear, subclass, time-limits. Hell, clearing a champion infested encounter with weapons that DONT stun champs would be a good challenge honestly. BTW, my comment isnt even a complaint. The negative power level just seems odd to me. Why not just get rid of power level completely and just have difficulty settings? Thats basically what it is anyways.

Grind for power! Only for it to mean absolutely nothing. The Bungie Way.

[b] Funny enough, I was looking for a way to contact Bungie to communicate this, but from a different lens. [/b] There are two glaring disadvantages to this new system, from my eyes, that not only divide the player base but also kill the new-player experience. These points are captured from a raid perspective but can easily be viewed from the dungeon perspective as well. (1) Let's start with arguably one of the most important aspects; new player engagement and retention. Having new players experience an older raid in a -10 power delta deters most from wanting to try another, due to an elongated, frustrating experience. An example of this is when I took 2 players who have not raided since D1 and 3 players who did DSC a couple of times when it first came out, through DSC this past Saturday. The enemy health, the DPS required to clear encounters, and the damage output from enemies caused the run to go upwards of 8 hours, and we never cleared Taniks. For reference, I am someone who loves to sherpa and I personally feel as if we could've cleared that raid within 2 hours (at most) if it was the same difficulty as pre-EoF. Raiding with new-lights has gone from a fun experience, typically consisting of laughs, excitement, and intrigue to run other raids, into an experience that leaves them wondering why did they just allocate half a day to run content that they either couldn't clear and/or wasn't modern, giving them the expectation that new content would be significantly harder. My purposed solution for (1) is that difficulty options are [u] not [/u] selectable for older content (except maybe an epic raid, if that is the direction Bungie wants to go). Let everything but the most modern/recent content be accessible to newer players. This would promote new player engagement and potentially lead them to be more interested in leveling/trying harder content. This means more eyes on upcoming expansions and world's first attempts. (2) My second concern with the new level/difficulty systems in raid/dungeon content is player division. If I understand the TWID's correctly, the goal is to create adjustable difficulty sliders for content, allowing players to choose whether or not they want to run raids/dungeons on a super low difficulty (probably no power delta?) at the cost of getting subpar loot or adjust the difficulty to something more applicable to that player's skillset, which also directly correlates to the loot that the player receives. To me, the apparent issue with this system as that, somewhere in the future, I can easily see that the player base will be divided into two camps; the lowest difficulty runs (sherpas, challenge runs, etc.) and the highest difficulty runs (loot focused, sweats, veteran players). I, for one, love challenging content, the idea of a higher tiered raid interests me, but at the same time, I feel as if having a diverse difficulty adjustment system will split the player base in half, resulting in most players struggling to find a applicable and healthy group to run with. I believe that you'll end up seeing that the majority of players will either have to settle and play on the lowest difficulty content (in turn receiving crap quality loot) or have the chance to run with sweats who might not invite based on Raid Report and/or kick based on dying once or twice. In my opinion, this is not a healthy path for Destiny endgame to go down, and, I hate to say this, but I can see the writing on the wall in regards to retained player base. My purposed solution for (2) is similar to mine for (1). Have one (except for epic raids) uniform difficulty for older content, as to not divide the player base. If Bungie believes that having x to the power of x adjustable modifiers would be beneficial to Destiny's endgame, leave that on the most modern of content, cycling it out once a new raid/dungeon drops. I love Destiny. I know it can be popular to hate on it, but looking at the big picture, this game has done SO MUCH for the gaming industry and for my personal life. I am excited to see the narrative and design direction that Bungie has in mind for Destiny, but please, please, please, do not punish endgame systems and your player base at the same time. - A concerned Destiny fan, who has been through peaks and valleys, from D1 closed alpha to present.

I seriously don’t understand putting a power deficit in standard raids and dungeons. They can easily make a difficulty mode for it.

I just saw this!! So dumb?! What are they thinking. It’s almost like they’re intentionally trying to kill there game. Also, you can’t stack up extra spoils in the postmaster anymore

To be fair -20 is a piece of piss so - 10 should be fine no?