Something has got to give. There's no focusing(the current methods for Vesper's Host and Sundered Doctrine are neat but it really should just be something you select from something like a vendor like the Onslaught attunement), not many people are farming them because the weapons are powercreeped out of usefulness, and if you are farming them you get a pitiful amount of loot per encounter for something that is meant to be an endgame pursuit. It doesn't feel rewarding to farm Caital 10 times in a row and get mostly armor or one of the two craftable weapons from the dungeon on top of not getting the exotic, it just feels like I have nothing to show for it and I have a bunch of trash filling my inventory that has almost no use.
Raids also have this problem where it's not rewarding to drop 2 pieces of loot max. I want to see my chest overflowing with loot, or at least dropping like 4 or 5 pieces of it. It's especially egregious in Duality, SoTW, GotD, and WR since they were separate purchases from the expansion and you might as well just skip buying them since the loot, the main pull of a looter shooter like Destiny, isn't even good enough to warrant farming. I want a reason to use the weapons from these dungeons, they look good, but competing with armor drops and lack of people farming when the dungeons are farmable just makes it feel awful that you're getting like 1 drop per encounter. Make the loot feel like a reward and not a burden, armor needs to be weighted to not drop as much outside of master difficulty where you actually want armor, right now I just insta delete any armor that drops unless it's a pinnacle and I'm under cap.
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I feel like this highlights a greater issue of the weapons from anything pre-final shape is just garbage now. Even the things that are craftable have outdated perk options that just are not desirable anymore compared to what exists now. A good example is vow. Vow used to be one of the best raids for weapon loot of all time. Chill clip fusion for unstoppables, overflow smg, forebearance being the best special in the game and cataclysmic being the best dps weapon all at the same time. You go do that raid now and there is nothing even remotely worth chasing. You can get chill clip on tinashas which can stun all three champs and is just a better gun. Forebearance was powercrept by the brave version which was powercrept by area denial GLs. Submission is just not good anymore and cataclysmic is not BAD but scintillation does the same thing but better in... every single way. We are kind of in sandbox limbo right now with bungie hinting that our current weapons will all become irrelevant when the new tier system launches with edge of fate, so I am not asking for it now, but I really hope Duality, Vow, Grasp of avarice, and maybe even shattered throne get the Vog/DSC treatment of getting a full loot update so that these activities dont just die out of relevance.
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1 ReplyMatador farming ptsd kicking in now lol
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Yo I kinda agree. Spire of the Watcher is kinda cringe for me now…
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Bungie keeps missing big opportunities. Every episode, they should've had a rite of the nine or into the light dungeon event. Shiny/adept weapons from Vesper's, Warlords Ruin, and Duality would he insane. The people hopping back on to play for shiny adepts of indebted kindness, storm chaser, epicherian-my fav, unforgiven, velocity baton... hell, all the Vesper weapons. They really have idiots working on this game.
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1 ReplyAll Dungeons are a nightmare when farming. To much Armor, no focusing on weapons. VH and SD got a focus chests (god bless the IceBreakerCatty bot) which is nice, but i'd rather have a attuned loot (like onslaught) which affects all encounters AND chests. ST and PoH deserve their own lootpool and a difficulty rework.
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the focusing system is bad, bungie should at least add a double chest , one with armors and one with only guns
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Edited by MNN8TV: 5/10/2025 3:49:29 AMSome just need updated rewards as well. Pit of heresy is a good example. From a rewards standpoint there is almost no reason to run the dungeon. Only people that read the TWAB week after week and remember things would even know you can get spiky stat distribution armor once a week. The weapons are waaaaaay outdated though.
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Please Bungie, give us more loot