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The whole game suck right now

https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/255453260/0/0 Bump this thread, we need everyone speaking up

I used to look forward to solo'ing nightfall in d1 every week even if it took me hours and hours, to being completely turned off from it in d2 because of these champion mods and stupid timer, whoever thought of this idea you really suck, no way am I doing 100k this season for the emblem, I'll wait for scout rifles to come back or at least pulse rifles hopefully next season.

I'm not a fan of the champion system to begin with. It's just annoying bullet sponge enemies with generic mechanics stapled on top. But if they refuse to remove it, the least they can do is give all primary weapon types (and exotics) access to at least one of the champion mods.

Yeah who the hell thought SMG's and Sidearms would be a good combo for content this season? Especially with Grandmaster content coming... This is bungie throwing a tantrum because we prefer snipers for end game content over close quarter weapons for the most part because snipers are just better in every way or literally a requirement like in GoS. They could have given auto rifles and sidearms and that would STILL be better than what we have, yet "play your way" once again means we play their way. Barrier champions can still shoot us and give other enemies permanent invulnerability and hit hard enough to pretty much instantly kill us, we get to spray tiny clips at their shield with no hope of destroying it for the stagger before they recover and continue melting us. On top of this if we don't hit them often enough while shielded they regen health. Hell, even when you DO shoot their barrier, they still get health because lag or some shit. But hey, they have to force us to use inferior weapons without buffing anything or changing the enemy sandbox in any way because people like Datto stomp their feet and cry about power creep despite only being nerfed since Shadowkeep with very small exceptions which have been reverted or have done nothing to make a difference worth talking about.

Don’t forget they’ll soon be forcing us to use only weapons that can get high enough light in certain activities too. This game feels bad now.

[quote]I’m sick and tired of having to run certain weapons, weapons I hate using just bc of champion mods, truly a poor design. Why not let us choose which primaries we want to use, this seasonal artifact just plain sucks imo.[/quote] I feel you specially in competitive action that had to be forced to use a hard light Just to compete with average players

Yep another half assed update which could have been good but wasn’t thought through.

They really want you to get up close and personal with the seasonal mods this time against adds that destroy you in less than a second

My biggest issue with the relics are that they don't create options, they limit them. I mean technically they do give out options to play differently, but in the end those "options" are so burnt into the game that it feels required.

I don't mind having different weapons for each season but having only short range weapons for certain champions has got to be one of the worst ideas yet.

It's sooo dumb, literally all they have to do is make one mod for each champion type that will slot onto ANY weapon, but no, then we might use the weapons we actually want to and also they'd have to come up with a couple more mods for the artifact. Can't have that, making content is hard.

Play how you want! As long as it's with a hand cannon and recluse

I've been saying for months that in Bungies Vidoc's they REALLY need to stop saying, that they want the players to play how we want to play. It's a 100% false statement. Reason being is because of all the nerfing (and even buffing sometimes) they are literally dictating how we play. Case and point is the Sniper and Grenade Launchers nerf this "Season of the Worthy" we as the players found that a lot of these weapons were great! So like any game out there you use what is great.... right? And Bungies reasoning for the nerfing of these is they what to give other weapon types more of a chance. Okay..... that's fine overall but, don't nerf entire weapon types to make them crap. (Poor poor Izanagi's...) Because of the 20% overall damage nerf to snipers it is in my opinion almost not worth using anymore. We play the game and find the best most efficient way to take down/kills enemies, bosses, etc... And unfortunately the current way of Bungie thinking is... "Hey the community is using these weapons/ablilities/supers a lot. They are too good lets NERF." Sad way of thinking... Overall, if Bungie IS going to flat out dictate how we play in this so called "Looter Shooter" then just don't BS us... give it to us straight and lay it down this is how it is. I would much rather have that, then the current way of constant nerfing, empty promises, and disappointments. Which also brings up the Ritual weapons. Honestly, I was really looking forward to having more of these and was disappointed to find out there are none (I know about the Iron Bananas Bow and if you see the stats and perks on that thing it is not "Worthy" of being called even a Ritual weapon). This also should have been communicated before the season lunched. If Bungie would have just said no Ritual weapons this season for Vanguard, Crucilble, and Gambit. I would have been disappointed still sure, but at least we wouldn't be that kid on Christmas expecting a awesome present and come to find we get nothing... Surprise!

Going to quote a Metallica song here : "You can do it your own way, if it's done just how I say"

Yea it sucks, last season so many bounties that required shotguns and snipers so I always had to have at least one of them on me at all times. Now this season is fusions and hand cannons so now I need to keep at least one of them on me at all times. O well. At least I like fusion rifles a little bit, more than I like shotguns and snipers. Hand cannons suck though. I can't stand being forced to use hand cannons.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Have Banshee sell the mods, not the artifact.