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1/29/2019 7:28:39 PM
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For god's sake keep loss mechanics out of quests

Basically what the title says. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing a huge chunk of your progress disappear. Especially if you HATE doing the activity. It's bull crap, lazy padding to extend play. If you REALLY want to extend the grind keep it FIXED but a bit longer. This only punishes average players. Hyper competitive sweats will have no problem breezing through, but average players (the crucible step for Last word for instance) will be disproportionately punished. It is poorly designed. Have the step be, kill 150 players, or something. It is even, fair and not going to punish average to lower skill players by taking away progress. Or put a cap on total loss per match.

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  • OMG Destiny 1 - Thorn quest: never played PVP; only one character, only fire/arc-damage, no void-class...took me 9 hrs - but I DID IT...just play

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  • stop being such a cry baby. Im not even remotely good at pvp and I managed to solo que my way through it yesterday.

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  • Edited by EARWAK3R: 1/30/2019 12:21:34 PM
    😅😅😅 are you serious? We only need to keep a 0.5 - 1 kd to easily beat the quest. Look me up, im a total pvp scrub! yet this was easily achievable for me. Just play smart? Why do we always have to have everything handed to us?

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    • [quote]Basically what the title says. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing a huge chunk of your progress disappear. Especially if you HATE doing the activity. It's bull crap, lazy padding to extend play. If you REALLY want to extend the grind keep it FIXED but a bit longer. This only punishes average players. Hyper competitive sweats will have no problem breezing through, but average players (the crucible step for Last word for instance) will be disproportionately punished. It is poorly designed. Have the step be, kill 150 players, or something. It is even, fair and not going to punish average to lower skill players by taking away progress. Or put a cap on total loss per match.[/quote] I watched Houndish video on how to get Last Word, and got to say very disappointed with questline. It is very poor, lacks imagination - I knew I wasn’t going for the last word because it involves Crucible - which I am so glad, cause this questline would have bored me.

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    • YES BRO!!! I had to go to mayhem and just start golden gunning. I was knocked back to zero three times and had to crawl my way back up to 97% when I had to get off. I’ll finish it today hopefully

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    • Edited by RichGhost77: 1/30/2019 12:29:10 PM
      Lol 150 kills would take me much much longer than the current requirement, and I'm average at best! This quest will be a piece of piss. Cry more 👍

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    • For those that say "git gud" Not all of us are sweaty and have hours on end to play. They need to remove loss mechanics from quest lines, it is just plain stupid. As stated, make it so you have to get a set number of kills, not base it on KDA. Or, as stated, make it so that after every match your progress is saved, so you can't dip below your previous match %. This is an exotic quest, not Lunas or Not Forgotten. Even Luna's the only part that relies on loss mechanics is the last part with getting to the specific rank. Otherwise, it is a grind but based on total kills, get this many solar kills, this many final blows etc.

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      • The Quest step is not hard, I got it within 6 matches in quick play, the key is NOT DYING!! Shocker right? But legit play smart🧠 Stay to the outside, don’t challenge 2v1, you hear a super pop you RUN AWAY! Dont be the front of the group stay behind and help you team mates finish off, as assists count toward you quest. In the End the Last Word shouldn’t be handed out and I honestly thought it should be made harder, the weapon is so unique and amazing that it SHOULD BE HARD TO GET. It feels THAT MUCH MORE rewarding going through hardship to get a reward then it being handed to you. STOP CRYING!

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      • I’m . . . at a loss.

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      • I'm pretty average. I finished it in three matches.

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      • Most of you people would cry about anything short of it arriving at the postmaster for you the day new loot drops in game. I am no better than a 1.0 k/d player and I got it in 4-5 matches. Quit whining and just play. In the time it took to type that out, you could have been on to the next step. You snowflakes are in for a ride awakening when you have to go out into the real world and leave the bubble mommy, daddy and the illusions your liberal media sells you

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      • I get it. I'm bad at Destint PvP, too. Play Mayhem, throw your super, hide, repeat step 2, repeat step 3, carry on as needed. It's how I did it.

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      • Aggahghagahaahh! This gun is a master piece of a quest and an exotic! I would rather have some mildly challenging crucible section then have to do a nightfall. All you need to have is 0.5 kill ratio. Kills count for about 1.5% and deaths subtract about 1%. (From my observation)

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      • Went from 21% to 1% in one match, thanks to this games beautiful matchmaking. Never touching crucible again.

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        • Took me one and 1/2 games to do the quest step. Not that hard

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        • Just....lol...

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        • Pls actually do the queststep before whining, its a pvp gun, its dissapointing it doesnt require at least triple the amount

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        • Waaaaa waaaaa waaaaa

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        • If people cant do this quest step maybe destiny isnt for you, basically you suck bad its black and white

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        • I’m not that great of a player either and just mooched off my teammates with assists. It’s not fun but it works

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        • Agree

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        • Edited by JensBoef: 1/30/2019 10:51:15 AM
          I hope they do this for Luna. Maybe I have a chance. :D EDIT: removing loss mechanics that is...

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        • After a few hours i got the 100% ran Slova Bomb with Transversive Steps just ran in , popped super and effd off & repeated until done . I was shit at pvp yesterday & i'm still shit at it now . Tally should lock after a match ends would make that step a much more palatable experience .

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        • It’s not that difficult to be honest, it’s just hard for people who don’t play crucible at all.

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        • Stop whining. TLW is clearly going to be a Luna’s killer. It’s already been put there as an easier quest for the people who couldn’t be bothered to get Lunas because you lot all complained that crucible was unfair. I’d much rather the entire series of quest steps be punishingly hard than grindy fetchquests. You lot are insufferably entitled. Rewards should be for skill not for how much you complain on the forums. Who cares about owning a gun that is handed out to everyone, exotics are supposed to be [i]exotic[/i]. FYI I completed that step about 30 seconds into my third match expecting it to be hard from all the complaining and it really isn’t.

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        • I breezed through the entire quest as an average player. It’s not even hard. Suck it up buttercup.

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