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So I decided to grind for Luna's Howl - I quit after 1 game.

What follows is a detailed account of my one and only competitive match I will play this season. The names have been changed to protect the innocent, but the events have been told to the best of my recollection. Please take this with a grain of salt. I work in the research/statistics field for a living and would never claim such a limited anecdotal experience is representative of the population. That said, I do find it comical how closely this seems to match the experiences of those who have put their own sanity on the line in their quest for this season's pinnacle weapons. Because the rewards looked so good, and because I needed every edge I could get I decided to spend the first 6 weeks grinding, leveling, and gearing to give myself the best shot I could. I made it to 600, studied all the new subclasses, and tested each extensively in quick-play and Iron Banner. Always being a fan of blink, I was partial to Nova Warp (OP discussions reserved for another time), and wasn't surprised to see their overall KDA confirmed via Guardian.GG and other sources. Great! I had a subclass. Now to gear up with my most meta load-out possible. Nova Warp - Check Dust Rock w/ Range MW - Check Trust w/ Outlaw/Rampage - Check Wardcliff Coil - Check Scavenger Perks - Check Contraverse Hold - No? OK, how about any Forsaken Exotics at all? No? OK, nevermind, I digress. OK, I was ready, let's do this! After waiting in orbit for what seemed like a week, my ship finally rockets back to life confident that Bungie's foolproof matchmaking algorithm has selected the best possible competitive match for me and my soon-to-be brothers in arms. I quickly check the roster, and find my first of many disappointments. Four solos vs. you guessed it, a four-stack. OK, not what I would have chosen, but what do I know? I'm not the Bungo-Tron-5000, and who am I to question our future robot overlord? Let's see who we're up against. Of our four opponents one has Luna's Howl and one has Not Forgotten. Not a great start. All four are using high range SGs. One Chaperone. Two Warps and Two Barrages. OK, so they're a little further along than I am. Or maybe a lot further along, this being my first Comp match all season. But let's not despair. But wait, there's one more detail about this team that seems suspicious. The two with Luna's/NF are from the same clan. And the other two? From two different clans. I'm not into conspiracy theories, but could these be account recoveries? Nah, I'm probably just paranoid, they probably just used LFG to round out their team like I would do if I was a little smarter and not a glutton for punishment hellbent on doing this on my own. Let's reserve judgement for now and just do our best. My next surprise comes when we begin our descent toward Earth. OK, Bannerfall?, Legions?, Midtown?. Nope. Vostok. Ugh! Does anyone really like this map? No matter, we'll give it our best and I'm sure that we'll do just. . . F@$K!!! Countdown! Why not just keep Elimination, I mean did they really need to create objective game modes in compe. . . I'm sorry, I digress. This is fine, we'll do fine. Let's go Team! Round 1! Team? Team? Where's the rest of my team. I see AsianTomCruise, he's here and nice Wishender BTW. And there's Dildozer, suspiciously immobile, but where's Admiral_Snackbar? Is he still in a holding pattern somewhere over Trostlands? Nope, just gone. No warning, no explanation, just up and vanished like a fart in the wind. OK, we're still OK, we've got this just stay togeth. . . Tom? Where's Tom? TOM!!!!, you're rushing them with a bow! Bold strategy, but he's AsianTomCruise, and that's kind of his thing. He must know something I don't. Wishender got a buff right? I mean sure it did, upon taking damage you now get an overshield equal to 10x damage taken and it fires Wolf-pack Rounds, Gjallarhorn style. Oh, wait, no it doesn't do any of that, and. . . Oh hi shotgun. . . Round 2!!! After an exceptionally long pause Tom and I spawn in on offense sans-Dildozer. Seems a little quick to be booted for inactivity, but hey I'm not Bungo-Tron-5000. This time ATC (that's what his friends call him) and I rush together. and attempt a flanking maneuver through the caves hopeful to get the drop on at least one of them. Success!!! They've closed on us from every entrance trapping us in the middle of the cave. . . Shotgun blasts ensue. . .Round 3! ATC had to bring mom some TP in the bathroom so I'm solo on this one. In an act of extreme cunning I decide to see how long I can play hide and seek with them. They didn't know I changed the game mode. Shotgun blasts ensue. . . Round 4! Blade Barrage . . . Round 5! Nova Warp . . . Round 6! Nova Warp . . . MY NOVA WARP!!! Payback time. . . Blade Barrage . . . Round 7! Nova Warp . . . Your Team Loses! Uninstall. Seriously though, this was my first Comp match I've played all season and with little embellishment for comedic effect this is pretty much how it went. I'm not exaggerating when I say I won't play another match this season. Lunas/NF look great, but not worth the frustration, and my hats off to all of you who did it legit. I'm just hoping they offer Luna's via a Broadsword style time-investment quest next season. I love Destiny and Crucible, but Comp is a different world. Between the paid carries and broken matchmaking it needs real work before its ever something I'd consider putting any serious time investment into. Good Luck out there Guardians, I'm pulling for ya! . EDIT: Thanks to those who took the time to read, and got a laugh out of it. Just to clarify I'm really not trying to complain here. I really just wanted to see if comp was as bad as everyone makes it out to be this season, and thought it was funny I ran into almost all of the problems people complain about in a single match. Loaded in with 3 teammates, matched against a 4-stack, players who were already Fabled/Legend rank, potential account recoveries (although this is an outside chance based only on the players being from different clans, probably not a recovery), AFK teammates, and another who didn't have the first clue. I totally expect anyone playing in a competitive team to use the best (meta) weapons and set-up. If I really wanted to make a serious run at it I have friends who are great PvP Players, and made the grind for Redrix with them last season. Even after being carried though it was really painful and I just couldn't bring myself to do it again this season, but wanted to see if it had improved. Spoiler: It hasn't. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in.  [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]

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  • I just checked your game history. You haven’t played a comp game this season. Nice try.

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    • Too long. [spoiler]skip to comments[/spoiler]

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    • [quote]What follows is a detailed account of my one and only competitive match I will play this season. The names have been changed to protect the innocent, but the events have been told to the best of my recollection. Please take this with a grain of salt. I work in the research/statistics field for a living and would never claim such a limited anecdotal experience is representative of the population. That said, I do find it comical how closely this seems to match the experiences of those who have put their own sanity on the line in their quest for this season's pinnacle weapons. Because the rewards looked so good, and because I needed every edge I could get I decided to spend the first 6 weeks grinding, leveling, and gearing to give myself the best shot I could. I made it to 600, studied all the new subclasses, and tested each extensively in quick-play and Iron Banner. Always being a fan of blink, I was partial to Nova Warp (OP discussions reserved for another time), and wasn't surprised to see their overall KDA confirmed via Guardian.GG and other sources. Great! I had a subclass. Now to gear up with my most meta load-out possible. Nova Warp - Check Dust Rock w/ Range MW - Check Trust w/ Outlaw/Rampage - Check Wardcliff Coil - Check Scavenger Perks - Check Contraverse Hold - No? OK, how about any Forsaken Exotics at all? No? OK, nevermind, I digress. OK, I was ready, let's do this! After waiting in orbit for what seemed like a week, my ship finally rockets back to life confident that Bungie's foolproof matchmaking algorithm has selected the best possible competitive match for me and my soon-to-be brothers in arms. I quickly check the roster, and find my first of many disappointments. Four solos vs. you guessed it, a four-stack. OK, not what I would have chosen, but what do I know? I'm not the Bungo-Tron-5000, and who am I to question our future robot overlord? Let's see who we're up against. Of our four opponents one has Luna's Howl and one has Not Forgotten. Not a great start. All four are using high range SGs. One Chaperone. Two Warps and Two Barrages. OK, so they're a little further along than I am. Or maybe a lot further along, this being my first Comp match all season. But let's not despair. But wait, there's one more detail about this team that seems suspicious. The two with Luna's/NF are from the same clan. And the other two? From two different clans. I'm not into conspiracy theories, but could these be account recoveries? Nah, I'm probably just paranoid, they probably just used LFG to round out their team like I would do if I was a little smarter and not a glutton for punishment hellbent on doing this on my own. Let's reserve judgement for now and just do our best. My next surprise comes when we begin our descent toward Earth. OK, Bannerfall?, Legions?, Midtown?. Nope. Vostok. Ugh! Does anyone really like this map? No matter, we'll give it our best and I'm sure that we'll do just. . . F@$K!!! Countdown! Why not just keep Elimination, I mean did they really need to create objective game modes in compe. . . I'm sorry, I digress. This is fine, we'll do fine. Let's go Team! Round 1! Team? Team? Where's the rest of my team. I see AsianTomCruise, he's here and nice Wishender BTW. And there's Dildozer, suspiciously immobile, but where's Admiral_Snackbar? Is he still in a holding pattern somewhere over Trostlands? Nope, just gone. No warning, no explanation, just up and vanished like a fart in the wind. OK, we're still OK, we've got this just stay togeth. . . Tom? Where's Tom? TOM!!!!, you're rushing them with a bow! Bold strategy, but he's AsianTomCruise, and that's kind of his thing. He must know something I don't. Wishender got a buff right? I mean sure it did, upon taking damage you now get an overshield equal to 10x damage taken and it fires Wolf-pack Rounds, Gjallarhorn style. Oh, wait, no it doesn't do any of that, and. . . Oh hi shotgun. . . Round 2!!! After an exceptionally long pause Tom and I spawn in on offense sans-Dildozer. Seems a little quick to be booted for inactivity, but hey I'm not Bungo-Tron-5000. This time ATC (that's what his friends call him) and I rush together. and attempt a flanking maneuver through the caves hopeful to get the drop on at least one of them. Success!!! They've closed on us from every entrance trapping us in the middle of the cave. . . Shotgun blasts ensue. . .Round 3! ATC had to bring mom some TP in the bathroom so I'm solo on this one. In an act of extreme cunning I decide to see how long I can play hide and seek with them. They didn't know I changed the game mode. Shotgun blasts ensue. . . Round 4! Blade Barrage . . . Round 5! Nova Warp . . . Round 6! Nova Warp . . . MY NOVA WARP!!! Payback time. . . Blade Barrage . . . Round 7! Nova Warp . . . Your Team Loses! Uninstall. Seriously though, this was my first Comp match I've played all season and with little embellishment for comedic effect this is pretty much how it went. I'm not exaggerating when I say I won't play another match this season. Lunas/NF look great, but not worth the frustration, and my hats off to all of you who did it legit. I'm just hoping they offer Luna's via a Broadsword style time-investment quest next season. I love Destiny and Crucible, but Comp is a different world. Between the paid carries and broken matchmaking it needs real work before its ever something I'd consider putting any serious time investment into. Good Luck out there Guardians, I'm pulling for ya! . EDIT: Thanks to those who took the time to read, and got a laugh out of it. Just to clarify I'm really not trying to complain here. I really just wanted to see if comp was as bad as everyone makes it out to be this season, and thought it was funny I ran into almost all of the problems people complain about in a single match. Loaded in with 3 teammates, matched against a 4-stack, players who were already Fabled/Legend rank, potential account recoveries (although this is an outside chance based only on the players being from different clans, probably not a recovery), AFK teammates, and another who didn't have the first clue. I totally expect anyone playing in a competitive team to use the best (meta) weapons and set-up. If I really wanted to make a serious run at it I have friends who are great PvP Players, and made the grind for Redrix with them last season. Even after being carried though it was really painful and I just couldn't bring myself to do it again this season, but wanted to see if it had improved. Spoiler: It hasn't.[/quote] I Think you could of added more detail to this story buddy...;)

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    • The only reason I am entering competitive is due to grinding the Broadsword. After my 25 games, that is it for me. I not touching Competitive again. My experience hasn't been so much of teams being stacked. In fact, we beat one or two in my 15 games. Shotguns haven't even been that big of a deal. I don't mind if people have Luna's, I still beat them with Bygones and a few with Trust. My personal most frustrating experience is Tolesto. Pulse Rilfe, to SMG, to Hand Cannon, to Side Arm, nothing could counter it. I was getting snipped across the map with that thing. How the hell do you counter that thing? I am asking seriously. This one team wiped the floor with us, all solos and all rocking Tolesto. Just a nightmare!

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      • Edited by NeoReaper82: 10/30/2018 1:20:29 AM
        Those who bitch about Nova Warp are just strait trash or hunters.

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        • That was a wonderful story and you told it so well!!!

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        • I hate comp and play very little of it. I'm pretty sure I have literally about 35 games since D2 dropped. I played 2 games for bounties a couple weeks ago: one game was 4v4 control. The other game was 4v1 countdown. On the the countdown 4v1, nobody actually left. They spawned us in with 5, and it ended up in a 4v1. The guy on the other team actaully tried too. He must have been doing bounties too.

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        • The Lunas howl and Not forgotten, are BOTH an exploited piece of weapon that should not be used in Quick Play. The weapon belongs in competitive mode ONLY. When you have people who play with these weapons in quick play, they are always on top and carrying the winning team. This is what i find to be COMPLETELY UNFAIR and something needs to be done about it.

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          • Ayyo, OP. I provide pree cheap Lunas Recovs. Can pm if you wanna check prices. (:

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          • I'm only laughing on the outside. My smile is only skin deep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB-SK1lvrF4

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          • Edited by CobraCommanderX-: 10/30/2018 3:52:41 AM
            Your first mistake is using Trust against Luna's/ Forgottens.. Use a pulse or something with range. Next thing is unless you're really skilled with a sHot gun ,don't go toe to toe with a shot gun user. Use Telesto or a sidearm. You can easily beat Luna's with a pulse at distance 99% of the time.[spoiler]I hardly ever play comp and won five game in a row today [/spoiler]

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          • Firstly, I understand your experience because I had anumber of similar ones while grinding for my Broadsword. Second, let me just say that the level of wit injected into this post was wonderful. I read it and visualized everything. Youve done a great job presenting a clear narrative to your experience. The fact that so many people commenting don't understand that this is satire, or how it is intended to be read honestly irks me. They are the types of people who would critique a stand up comedian for inflating their own experiences on stage during their gig. Kudos to your post. I contrmplated steppung foot back in Crucible after the Broadsword grind, but nope. I did the whole thing in a week and I'm just too tired.

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          • F I got lucky and my first dozen or so games were decent as a solo. Now I'm at the 100 HC headshots and a little more than halfway into heroic. Next quest step is getting to fabled. I'm dreading going back in because obtaining rank actually matters now

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          • Good read. Well put. I'll stick with quickplay.

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          • Wow, yeah you got screwed. A team of one person above 1000 glory pts versus a team of all players above 2000 pts is some trash can match making.

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          • Run 4-stack ONLY with skilled (no raging) players and do the quest with warlock. Nova warp is WAY better than BB in comp and results in incredibly easy games especially in a 4 stack of nova warps.

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          • Edited by nukacola24: 10/30/2018 3:03:35 AM
            I'am at 97/100 of the second to last step of Luna however I am at 800 glory and I'm doing it solo it's torture! I win 1 lose one back and forward I've even been matched a 1v5 and I have to take the hit I believe that's bs bungie should look at that

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          • Edited by ODSTrooper: 10/30/2018 2:55:35 AM
            I'm currently working towards Luna's Howl myself as a solo player. Things haven't been that bad so far as I go positive kd wise nearly every game, but wow is it annoying trying to use anything other than a shotgun at times tbh. Blade barrage one shotting me in my dawnblade super also happens sometimes. My loadout for my dawnblade warlock (Don't have Nova warp regrettably as I for whatever reason chose to get it last) is Crimson, Widow's Bite, and Sin's of the Past and I find it works well as long as I can manage to keep distance from all the Ikelos and similar shotguns... I'm currently like halfway through the third quest step, Anger and Bargaining (200 solar kills), and before long I should be at the hand cannon precision kills. What i'm wondering however is what happens if you end up reaching Fabled before getting to the last step of Reconstruction?

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          • Just began my quest after 10 comp matches. I did well in all I believe I did positive in all unless I check my history and find out it was mostly assists lol. Every game was pretty easy i havent ran into stacked sweats. I've ran into stacked normie which destroyed my team but I was able to deal with them then again i was crutching with telesto since I was out for fun but now the actual quest begins with the handcannon stuff. Only reason in doing this is because I love handcannons now so I know I'll get lunas but idk about not forgotten, that one deserves more attention honestly

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          • I suck at PvP. I can't even finish the quest for Chaperone. I am on the quest where you need to get elemental kills in Crucible. I finished the Void easily enough thanks to Nova Warp. Got into solar which has been a nightmare. Got to 64% before a string of bad luck knocked me down to 59. Took a week off and then let a clanmate talk me into going in. In one match I dropped to 41%. I don't have a problem with PvP when I can just go in and waste time. When I have a quest in hand it makes it worse for me.

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            • Edited by Egg: 10/30/2018 12:45:51 PM
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              Wow, your last countdown/comp match was June 26. Can I call BS on this whole post? Either this is a long b8, or just a stupid post Edit: It has been brought to my attention that I was looking at his hunter while this happened on his Warlock. I am sorry for misreading his game history, his Warlock clearly played this game of comp on Vostok in countdown.

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              • By any chance, the 4 you speak of are “cantFN****”, eatsu4***”, ooow***”, and “havi***”? I had the exact same match you’re saying against those 4.

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                • Why would you even try to play comp solo?

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                  • After reset tommorow I will of gotten the weapon solo for the most part, with the help of the reset bonus lol I will say, it’s one of the most frustrating things I’ve done in destiny The slime people will do for wins doesn’t even surprise me Xur selling telesto did no favors for anyone ethier You did hit the nail on the hammer tho all of those things you mentioned happened plenty of times during my efforts

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                  • Yeah I'm not gonna bother

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                  • Ha. That's about right. Countdown is the absolute worst.

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