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Edited by Spawn: 10/30/2018 11:15:07 AM
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So I decided to grind for Luna's Howl - I quit after 1 game.

What follows is a detailed account of my one and only competitive match I will play this season. The names have been changed to protect the innocent, but the events have been told to the best of my recollection. Please take this with a grain of salt. I work in the research/statistics field for a living and would never claim such a limited anecdotal experience is representative of the population. That said, I do find it comical how closely this seems to match the experiences of those who have put their own sanity on the line in their quest for this season's pinnacle weapons. Because the rewards looked so good, and because I needed every edge I could get I decided to spend the first 6 weeks grinding, leveling, and gearing to give myself the best shot I could. I made it to 600, studied all the new subclasses, and tested each extensively in quick-play and Iron Banner. Always being a fan of blink, I was partial to Nova Warp (OP discussions reserved for another time), and wasn't surprised to see their overall KDA confirmed via Guardian.GG and other sources. Great! I had a subclass. Now to gear up with my most meta load-out possible. Nova Warp - Check Dust Rock w/ Range MW - Check Trust w/ Outlaw/Rampage - Check Wardcliff Coil - Check Scavenger Perks - Check Contraverse Hold - No? OK, how about any Forsaken Exotics at all? No? OK, nevermind, I digress. OK, I was ready, let's do this! After waiting in orbit for what seemed like a week, my ship finally rockets back to life confident that Bungie's foolproof matchmaking algorithm has selected the best possible competitive match for me and my soon-to-be brothers in arms. I quickly check the roster, and find my first of many disappointments. Four solos vs. you guessed it, a four-stack. OK, not what I would have chosen, but what do I know? I'm not the Bungo-Tron-5000, and who am I to question our future robot overlord? Let's see who we're up against. Of our four opponents one has Luna's Howl and one has Not Forgotten. Not a great start. All four are using high range SGs. One Chaperone. Two Warps and Two Barrages. OK, so they're a little further along than I am. Or maybe a lot further along, this being my first Comp match all season. But let's not despair. But wait, there's one more detail about this team that seems suspicious. The two with Luna's/NF are from the same clan. And the other two? From two different clans. I'm not into conspiracy theories, but could these be account recoveries? Nah, I'm probably just paranoid, they probably just used LFG to round out their team like I would do if I was a little smarter and not a glutton for punishment hellbent on doing this on my own. Let's reserve judgement for now and just do our best. My next surprise comes when we begin our descent toward Earth. OK, Bannerfall?, Legions?, Midtown?. Nope. Vostok. Ugh! Does anyone really like this map? No matter, we'll give it our best and I'm sure that we'll do just. . . F@$K!!! Countdown! Why not just keep Elimination, I mean did they really need to create objective game modes in compe. . . I'm sorry, I digress. This is fine, we'll do fine. Let's go Team! Round 1! Team? Team? Where's the rest of my team. I see AsianTomCruise, he's here and nice Wishender BTW. And there's Dildozer, suspiciously immobile, but where's Admiral_Snackbar? Is he still in a holding pattern somewhere over Trostlands? Nope, just gone. No warning, no explanation, just up and vanished like a fart in the wind. OK, we're still OK, we've got this just stay togeth. . . Tom? Where's Tom? TOM!!!!, you're rushing them with a bow! Bold strategy, but he's AsianTomCruise, and that's kind of his thing. He must know something I don't. Wishender got a buff right? I mean sure it did, upon taking damage you now get an overshield equal to 10x damage taken and it fires Wolf-pack Rounds, Gjallarhorn style. Oh, wait, no it doesn't do any of that, and. . . Oh hi shotgun. . . Round 2!!! After an exceptionally long pause Tom and I spawn in on offense sans-Dildozer. Seems a little quick to be booted for inactivity, but hey I'm not Bungo-Tron-5000. This time ATC (that's what his friends call him) and I rush together. and attempt a flanking maneuver through the caves hopeful to get the drop on at least one of them. Success!!! They've closed on us from every entrance trapping us in the middle of the cave. . . Shotgun blasts ensue. . .Round 3! ATC had to bring mom some TP in the bathroom so I'm solo on this one. In an act of extreme cunning I decide to see how long I can play hide and seek with them. They didn't know I changed the game mode. Shotgun blasts ensue. . . Round 4! Blade Barrage . . . Round 5! Nova Warp . . . Round 6! Nova Warp . . . MY NOVA WARP!!! Payback time. . . Blade Barrage . . . Round 7! Nova Warp . . . Your Team Loses! Uninstall. Seriously though, this was my first Comp match I've played all season and with little embellishment for comedic effect this is pretty much how it went. I'm not exaggerating when I say I won't play another match this season. Lunas/NF look great, but not worth the frustration, and my hats off to all of you who did it legit. I'm just hoping they offer Luna's via a Broadsword style time-investment quest next season. I love Destiny and Crucible, but Comp is a different world. Between the paid carries and broken matchmaking it needs real work before its ever something I'd consider putting any serious time investment into. Good Luck out there Guardians, I'm pulling for ya! . EDIT: Thanks to those who took the time to read, and got a laugh out of it. Just to clarify I'm really not trying to complain here. I really just wanted to see if comp was as bad as everyone makes it out to be this season, and thought it was funny I ran into almost all of the problems people complain about in a single match. Loaded in with 3 teammates, matched against a 4-stack, players who were already Fabled/Legend rank, potential account recoveries (although this is an outside chance based only on the players being from different clans, probably not a recovery), AFK teammates, and another who didn't have the first clue. I totally expect anyone playing in a competitive team to use the best (meta) weapons and set-up. If I really wanted to make a serious run at it I have friends who are great PvP Players, and made the grind for Redrix with them last season. Even after being carried though it was really painful and I just couldn't bring myself to do it again this season, but wanted to see if it had improved. Spoiler: It hasn't. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in.  [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]

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  • Edited by Dominator of Oats: 10/30/2018 3:55:26 AM
    Yeah. I think I'm done with crucible. Faced a few teams who earned their Luna's howl but with zero matchmaking it's just a shit show. Bungie just seems to love winner's ball formats, and it's not fun. People in Iron Banner have way more power than I do. Competitive is filled with sweat. 6s are people with Luna's and Bygones and Telesto bagging you. Like, every single mode is stacked against me just because I don't have as much time to play. I'm never going to be a great player, I'm almost forty and this is my first FPS. These outlier weapons are ridiculous. And Bungie doesn't care. Kevin Yanes is "listening". It's cool if crucible is just a shit show, but acknowledge that or something we have this half formed comp playlist in a world of outlier weapons. I wish I could play 4v4 quickplay or something else instead. I tried competitive just because I like 4v4 better but it's too sweaty for me and I just don't have the time to invest. Sorry! That's just reality. You know what else is reality? A game that offers all this variety but makes outlier weapons that dominate, destroying the variety of the game itself could have. I like working on the exotic masterwork weapons but after slogging through it with jade rabbit to go to vigilance wing it's like, you know what? I don't think crucible is for me. I would love to keep playing it but I'm just tired of being out matched. I'm glad a bunch of streamers got their way. Enjoy the game!

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    • Edited by Lt-Elhew-_USMC: 10/30/2018 11:48:38 AM
      I think the problem is Sir. CheatsAlot and his band of Lag-O-Teer's run roughshod over that game mode. Sweats my Aunt Tille's Winabagos!

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    • Don't worry, they will nerf it when all the kiddies cry enough about it.

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    • TLDR; you could not be the type to play competitive crucible so why bother ?

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      • if it hurts that bad go to asia and play in a 4 stack the kids over there are bots

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      • Trying to get Luna is cancer if you don't already have a 2+ KD. Just don't even try. My friend is a 1.5 KD and it is ruining his life. He is too focused to quit though. Salty is an understatement. He does have the Claymore too.

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        • Edited by MountaneDew: 10/30/2018 4:17:33 PM
          *Plays one game of comp solo queue* and says "I'm done, comp is stupid" it's really not that hard, it's just grindy. You really should get a team together. It's comp, it's not quick play. I don't understand people who complain about it when all they do is solo queue. You are asking for frustration If you solo queue. It's a 4v4 competitive game mode having a stacked team is almost a requirement, especially if you are average at the game.

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        • I've played a few comp matches; even did really well in one of them. I actually really enjoy...what is it...Survival mode? That's a cool mode. But I know I'm just not at the level where I'm going to advance in competitive very successfully. My K/D is [i]juuuuust[/i] north of 1.0--the best I can say is that most of the time, I'm not [i]solely[/i] responsible if my team loses. There are some things I realize I won't get because I don't have the wherewithal to do what's needed, and Luna's Howl / Not Forgotten are among them.

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        • I haven’t played pvp after the horrible beta square shoe box maps but if you decide to play again let me know. I could use a laugh.

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          https://www.bungie.net/en/PGCR/2779164942?character=2305843009263947694 I know youre joking but you got only 1 kill and was bottom of your team, top player on your team had 8...that loss was probably on you? In any case I agree the game has trash matchmaking.

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          • Wise choice, my friend. I'm almost done with it so I'm gonna try to finish it up. Honestly, it's been a drag and I wish I never started it.

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          • i've had a pretty good experience grinding for lunas, I havent played solo, i have ran with a 4stack many times, although we almost prefer a 3 stack, we have noticed running as a 4 stack pulls in people at legend rank, but as someone who likes comp i dont mind the challange

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          • I get what you said, i struggled a LOT to get my Luna and now my Not Forgotten, i literally don't want to play competitive anymore... especially because i'm a SA player and by the lack of southamerican players, we always match against NA, EU, even australian players! wtf... so imagine the lagfest. Then, after ranking 3-4K, every match is super sweaty, like every one of them... i spent prolly 2 or 3 weeks total to get my Luna and NF... im super stressed now... now i only want to kill NPCs in PvE or maybe some relaxing QuickPlay. And what bothers me more, is the people cheesing the -blam!- out of competitive, that i hope they get banned. It's not fair, i put so much effort into this crap for someone to get it easy and for free by cheesing the game through VPN or whatever... i hope Bungie perma-bans them all for once. Thank you for not being that kind of people. And i believe they will make a quest on next season, besides... whenever The Last Word returns, nobody will use Not Forgotten or Luna. It will be just another "trophy" on the Vault.

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          • My friends call me ATC, but for the record I don't play competitive.

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          • Edited by EMW ZEEK: 10/30/2018 1:41:30 PM
            What do you mean by account recovery? And aside from the matchmaking situation I think that's pretty close to how the grind for those weapons should be. They are not meant for everyone to get, only the top 10% or so should be able to obtain them based purely on merit and little to no RNG involved.

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            • am i the only one who has had a semi good experience with comp this season?

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              • The forums need more humor like this, gg guardian!

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                • Edited by Dremacoid6: 10/30/2018 1:36:34 PM
                  It doesn't sound bad. I have gone against stacks of full fireteams that carried Telestos, Luna's and the Forgotten. I have been team up with players that have a level of 15-20 and a light level lower than 300. And I am still wondering how is it that I got to team up with them. I am currently 200-300 points away from Fable and I have been playing as a solo player.

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                • Edited by Veilfire07: 10/30/2018 1:35:39 PM
                  This is a perfect representation of what I had to go through to get those 25 comp completeions for my broadsword. Sad enough I won as much as I lost. I am a decent PvP player but out of the 25 matches I played atleast 15 of them we against fully stacked fireteams. I started with a brave of 580 after 25 matches I ended with a brave of 572. To every single person who won it genuinely hats off to you. I will more than be happy when I get my broadsword, luna's howl is a different kind of suffering all together. P.S: On a side note loved the humor, needed that laugh !!

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                • hahahaha, laughed at just reading you're title. I needed to run 25 comp's for Broadsword, which I have now. Unsure whether I'll continue for Luna. Ran into the same problems most have talked about already. Maybe make a go of it if trials comes back, at least that will take some sweats away.

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                • Edited by TeIey: 10/30/2018 11:17:04 AM
                  Regardless of your true intentions for this post. Comp isn't that bad. By no stretch of the imagination is it perfect, but FFS, it sure as hell beats g Lance lane camps, with antiope last case scenario. Just stop solo queuing ffs. Everyone that complains solos. It's not designed for that, and before I get the matchmake us with solos, why should they? Countdown is heavily teamwork oriented. You need to communicate with your team. Luna's actually stupid easy to get. Just get in there. Get your HC kills, finish all the steps. Then go and get fabled after. If you do it last fabled, you will be killed by people with Luna's working towards their not forgotten.

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                  • so you played one game and concluded the whole of the game mode from that, seems like you really need to play more so you can actually have a valid opinion....by that I mean no one does a survey asks one person and then submites the results...

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                  • Edited by FixTheLagBungo: 10/31/2018 2:37:05 AM
                    I am a naughty boi, post removed, pls no bully

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                    • Honestly competative is being ruined by account recoveries, ddosing. I had to do 25 matches for the broadsword quest and 3 times i got booted from game and had to restart my net. I simply wont bother with comp. I actualy did decent as well but too many things wrong with comp specialy MM.

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                    • Yep pretty much how my 25! Yes you read that 25 games went. I had the second to last stage for the broadsword so thought "Ok let me grit my teath and go play the 25 comp matches needed over the next few evenings!" I decided to just play 5 games a night and my first game I won with a bunch of randoms. Did pretty good with my 1.75 kda. Fast forward to game 25. I am now at 1.65 kda having been killed by Lunas. Out shot with the same gun as myself even though I shot first and hit all crits and was being bodies with a 7 resilience...ok maybe I'm lagging...nope....um I don't get it...guy teleports from under my shotgun...oh..I see.... Needless to say that by the time I finished my forced 25 matches I had learned some new, and possibly alien, curse words! Just finished my forced 25 rumble games yesterday. Came across a few teleporting and un-killable people where too. So even in a free for all people need to cheat?!?! WTF Is there sucha thing as rumble account recoveries?

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                    • You claim to have a background in stats and that a limited anecdotal experience such as yours is not representative of the population/activity, and yet here you are quitting after one game from drawing a conclusion from said anecdotal experience. Because why else would you quit from one game if you did not already draw a conclusion?

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