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Edited by LordZoltan:
3/9/2018 4:27:23 AM
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I made a post about what abortion is
I made a post about what abortion is and I received quite a few responses.
I want to talk about those in favor of abortion. Most in favor of abortion felt the need to express to me that abortion is just the removal of a clump/cluster of cells.
They don't talk about an embryo or a fetus. Nope. And when I brought up the embryo or fetus I was promptly told that an embryo/fetus is not alive. That it doesn't match the criteria for life or sentience. And so it is ok to remove it from the womb.
I was also told that most, if not all, abortions are performed on low wage earners or poverty stricken women. And that removing the clump of cells will prevent a life of poverty. So the abortion is actually a good thing.
Anytime God was brought up, the pro abortion types made it clear that God doesn't exist and therefore there is nothing to be concerned about on that end.
I was accused of having a desire to "force my opinion on others". And that I seek to control other people's lives and bend them to my will.
And this happens every single time abortion is brought up.
It's as if they are reading from a script or they're an NPC in a simulation who are incapable of thinking for themselves.
That doesn't apply to everyone. So please don't perceive this as an attack. Just an observation on my part.
And it seems to me that they say these things in order feel better about abortion. Let me say that again, they say these things in order to FEEL better about abortion.
That is my opinion, so don't get your undies all bunched up and twisted about my opinion.
They want to make it seem like it is so clinical and safe. It's just a procedure, nothing more. Which seems rather unemotional to me. If it is so unemotional, then why do they need to feel good about it?
What is the big deal about saying that abortion is the termination of human life at its earliest stages?
What is wrong with saying that? Yes I would like an answer. I need your opinion.
I am not talking about killing babies. I am not talking about murder. I am talking about the termination of human life at its earliest stages. Stages that every single one of us had to go through in order to be born. We all have that in common. Every single one of us.
Would it not be better to just be honest with ourselves?
" hey where are you going?"
" oh I'm just headed to the doctor's to terminate the life growing inside of me"
" oh okay,. Well have fun with that be safe. Call me afterwards if you need me."
Why must people use euphemisms to cover up the truth? Yes I would like an answer.
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1 ReplySo you wouldn't support in-vitro? If you are making the argument that abortion is destroying life in the earliest stages then you cannot consistently support in-vitro logically without admitting to drawing a arbitrary line in the sand. What makes killing a month old fetus wrong but killing a fertilized embryo not? In-virto kills literally millions of fertilized embryos or aka life in the earliest stage. The other thing is simply not being a hypocrite and holding a double standard or at least recognizing that there is a double standard. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy]Very few Pro-lifers accept abortions past the 22 week period.[/url] With this in mind what is the cognitive ability of a 22 week old fetus? [url=http://brainmind.com/FetalBrainDevelopment.html]This study basically shows that it is just starting to grasp the ability for the basics of homeostasis like breathing. It is infeasible for it to have any awareness. [/url] Now lets look at the cognitive ability of a fully grown cow which we have no problem killing nonchalantly. [url=http://animalbehaviorandcognition.org/uploads/journals/17/AB&C_2017_Vol4(4)_Marino_Allen.pdf]This study show that cows are actually more advanced then we previously thought. [/url] Can you see the double standard? How is one suppose to navigate this and be as consistent in their beliefs as possible with this glaring problem? Is your argument valid that it is immoral to terminate a life that has the potential to be a full human individual? Yes. There is a counter argument for that but it is still a valid point. However to ignore the equally valid points for why abortion is moral is avoiding a constructive discussion on the matter. I use to be anti-abortion and I use to use the argument, "they only say that to make themselves feel better," until I realized I was avoiding a much broader perspective that held as much validity as my own position. I see more deflecting in what you wrote than any actual evidence for why abortion is immoral.
