You tell all the people that defends this to leave... then at the end you ask those same people a question. You are a confusing one OP.

For years now, both PC and mobile platforms have shown that micro transactions are a successful and popular model to build around. Sure there is part of the consumer base that believes that it is "shady" but obviously enough don't mind it to where it is still a common practice. I personally didn't mind it in D1 and the P2W cries over the D2 items are grossly overstated and I don't mind these items either. Your post is the furthest thing from reasonable as are most of your responses so I'm not sure why I'm even bothering. An honestly, until you come across a situation where one of these items effects you in some way, it hard to really argue against micro transactions.

[quote]Before I begin, if you don't mind microtransactions, if you think that microtransactions in a full priced game is ok, if you defend it, if your bias for bungie, you can leave, please, don't come here , this is just a warning.[/quote] [quote]I just wanna ask a question, to those who defend this? What are you getting out of this?[/quote] Do you want a debate or an echo chamber? Make your -blam!-ing mind up, jesus. When you've pulled your patronising face out from between your cheeks and stopped huffing your own farts, maybe, just maybe you might get something approaching rational debate. Until then, kindly do on. Ta.

Lol micro transactions single handedly fueled free dlc for halo 5 for like 2 years. I never bout a req pack yet I still benefited from them because people did buy them and it gave 343 money to make free dlc that I didn't pay for. If bungie makes a crap ton from micro transactions and it allows them to make better and bigger expansions for the PvE I say keep them. You don't have to buy them.

[quote]Before I begin, if you don't mind microtransactions, if you think that microtransactions in a full priced game is ok, if you defend it, if your bias for bungie, you can leave, please, don't come here , this is just a warning.[/quote] Oh look, another poster who thinks anyone with a different opinion than theirs isn't welcome... All getting mad like that does is make you look like a joke.

Here's the biggest factors. 1) It allows the developers to release free content (SRL, Festival of the Lost, etc), since they're making money via the players who drop money on Eververse. 2) It's strictly optional, and doesn't even remotely change the game itself. It's just stuff to make your Guardian a little shinier. 3) It's not going to ruin anything, and if you don't like it, it's entirely ignorable.

I wanna tear off the heads of microtransactions and shit down their necks as much as the next guy, but the title of this thread - particularly the "actual reasoning" part - is some pretty goddamn egregious false advertising. Far from "actual reasoning," the OP is 100% analysis-free emotional ragemonkey claptrap ("How dare you" twice, "You digust [sic] me," "slimy bastards," "pathetic old bullshit excuses," "BULLSHIT" in all caps, no less.) I certainly won't be defending microtransactions in general or Bungie's in particular. After all, defending the indefensible can leave one in serious need of a bleach and lye shower. But damn, please don't promise "actual reasoning" and deliver just another a garden variety gamer message board tirade.

What is the big fuzz about? So what if ppl spend some money for skins and such. In my opinion the bigger issue is that shaders are now consumable. Which force ppl to spend more money on microtransactions if they really want a certain shader to match with the rest of their gear. But having microtransaction by itself, i have no beef with that.

[quote]Before I begin, if your a devils advocate, if you don't mind microtransactions, if you think that microtransactions in a full priced game is ok, if you defend it, if your bias for bungie, you can leave, this is not an argument because theres nothing to argue, this is a message to the -blam!-s heads up in corporate, if you just wanna insult, with no purpose involved. please, don't come here . And I know your not going to leave, because some of you, just can't stand hearing criticism about the things you pay for. [Edit] and of course, the people who are defending it, didn't leave, even though they have 0 reason to comment. How dare you, how dare you, put microtransactions into destiny 2. Is 60$ not enough? Was the limited editions, legendaries editions, game stop copies, pre orders not enough? You digust me. It's even worse, that you people didn't mention this anywhere, that you could buy game interfering microtransactions, you slimy bastards. you corporate greedy -blam!- wits, taking advantage of a corrupting industry tactic that is ruining the quality of priced gaming. Thank you for contributing to the downfall of the industry. And I'm sick of this pathetic old bullshit excuses "You don't have to buy it." "It's optional "They need to make money somehow." "It's my money so I'll do what I want " every company does it, so it's magically all okay." I urge you, reasonable people, don't believe this BULLSHIT. I just wanna ask a question, to those who defend this? What are you getting out of this?[/quote] What we are all getting is something to earn when other content gets old. You get one bright engram every level up after 20. You get an infinite amount of these, so an infinite amount to get what you want from them. You've got until the next dlc to get every item from them in the game so DONT BUY THEM you lose content if you do. I defend it being in the game because some people like to rush through content or possibly prefer pay to win over play to win. You get more of these engrams the more you play. So it's fine eververse is there because frankly YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING. Just farm for it. You've got a lot of time. It allows level ups to be important. So stop complaining about something you don't have to do.

Nothing at its fine you don't have to pay for it and it's not bungies fault that they can have recurring income to help fund development and fixing and improving the game you paid for....the micro transactions don't give anyone an edge in battle they are for instant gratification if you can wait you can get it in game no problems, special emotes you get them from micro transactions so what it doesn't ruin game balance so why complain...I'm not one to spend money on micro transactions because I can get them and better by playing the game which I find much more enjoyable.....yeah you can complain about money but you can grind to get whatever you want so I don't know why you are complaining when it's just for people who can't wait for things/people who have money and $5 isn't a lot so please stop complaining it's aggravating to see people argue before they have a solid reason to complain

What's the point of these micro transactions?

[quote][Edit] and of course, the people who are defending it, didn't leave, even though they have 0 reason to comment.[/quote] You don't know the definition of 'reasonable' do you? It means to be fair and sensible, which includes considering the opinions of others regardless of your own view.

It's a game, and not a big deal. Nobody is clamoring about the 2 hour XP boost you get for pre-ordering. Is that not "game altering" for money? Why not? Because it's not sold in Eververse. The main gripe most people have is that eververse exists to begin with. Why? I'll tell you. Your average vocal anti-eververse player thinks in a bit of a circle it seems. The reality is they want everything eververse has, but they don't think you should have to pay for it. Which implies to them Bungie COULD just give it to them for....you guessed it, FREE. That's right, people just want free stuff. That's the crux of this issue. Some people are, "meh, who cares?" other people are "omg, this is PTW" and the milling masses are "shiny stuff, me wants". Don't let these soap-box altruists fool you guys, they don't care about anything other than what they do or don't have.

What's your argument against it? "It's my money" "You don't have to buy it" Both seem kinda hard to dispute. Is it pay to win?(sincerely asking cause I don't know)

You don't have to buy it