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Edited by bill_westie:
6/16/2017 5:39:44 AM
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With every reveal and interview, D2 looks worse
[b]Since the original reveal we have been told that:[/b]
There are no dedicated servers.
Special Weapon slots have been removed.
6v6 crucible has been removed.
4v4 crucible, increasing the penalty to solo players.
Rumble has been removed (may return later)
Power ammo can only be picked up by one player.
Ships are still just loading screens.
Vaults will still not have any Loadout or Sorting facilities.
No separation to balancing PvP and PvE.
Machine guns removed.
Guided Games not available for Nightfalls and heroic endgame activity.
Private games removed on launch.
Taken are back.
[b]The positives I've seen since the original stream are:[/b]
Guided Games - limited. See above
The ability to revive a teammate in hard mode raids.
Gun specific weapon balancing
Did I miss anything?
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2 RepliesThey did say it was a dedicated server/P2P hybrid of whatever the heck it is
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3 RepliesI'll bet you the loot system still sucks. RNG will still make us suffer. Exotics will still be only available to elitists shit heads and Luke Smith will still have to many lofty ideals of putting his foot in his mouth😏
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Edited by haiyu: 6/16/2017 4:13:57 AMAbout the rumble part: Thy said that D2 wasn’t gonna have rumble at launch...therefore we might get it later. Really, I dunno. I’m a hardcore rumble player from time to time and yes...that’s a disappointment but I have more things to worry about in D2 than that...he’ll I’m more excited for when they’ll be more primary gunfights now than in D1 right now with ability-sticky-sidearm crutchlords. But yeah...if it’s coming later, then I’m okay with that. And as my stance—I have the game pre-ordered and can’t wait to play it when it comes out! :)
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Yea..... Im glad I haven't preordered and im probably not going to buy this game either
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It's sad really. This is what mass effect did with its series. Look how that turned out
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Just stop crying. Really a game you like is evolving. Everyone is just afraid of change it's sad.
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Edited by goldstarlestelle: 6/16/2017 4:50:35 AMTo me most of the things I have seen in D2 look to make gameplay last longer. Which didn't look like it was more fun. Also the new subclasses look underpowered imo. Sure they are new and flashy but I was not impressed with the actual abilities. I imagine strikes will take longer based on what I have seen, probably PvE in general. I dont play PvP much so I don't know how 4vs4 will effect things. I'll wait a month and see how D2 is being recepted before I decide to buy or not.
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Power ammo for only one? That's great, the try hard who remembers the timing and all the ammo spawn spots is going to destroy us. Sounds fun
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It looks like a stream lined retextured D1 and most changes do to PvP playability. Seems like no matter what you read or watch it all comes down to PvP.
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2 RepliesMachine guns removed? Will not be getting the game then
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-blam!- off and don't play it. One less salty bitch to worry about
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The only encouraging thing has been that they are now saying that the host for shared activities is not Peer to Peer and one Console is no longer hosting. So they supposedly have Cloud Servers for host. That is not as good as Dedicated Servers, but at least their will not be D1 Host Advantage and they can't harvest your IP Address for skanky IP Exploits (i.e. like DOS trials etc.). If they set it up right and have good Lag Compensation code, then shared activities (Raids, Strikes and PvP) should be a lot better than D1 ever was. You can't tell by what people post now playing the Reveal or at E3 because those will be local closed set ups. We will have to wait until the beta to draw any conclusions on how good their Servers are. If they suck in the beta, I'll be cancelling my Xbox Digital pre-order (got it only for the Beta code) and moving on.
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If OPs op IS true(cannot believe), not only does it seem riddled with mistakes on Bungie's part; It should not be called Crucible.. FPS history shows this is not a good idea(extreme changes) and fans like moderate consistency when it comes to their PvP Anywho my opinions are... I have and still (from launch) support a social and ranked option for gamemodes like Bungie's older games(extremely successful). IF they choose to instill 4v4 it needs to be Social- 6v6 Ranked- 4v4 ToO will kinda be robbed of its individuality if they choose to do small teams across all. All in all I prefer they leave 6v6 alone but include smaller game modes like they do now. MG removal- A serious mistake Special slot removal- Like what(?!?) mistake Heavy ammo- Mistake Rumble- meh, important to some not to me "Its not broken but lets fix it anyway..." they say.
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Cool, see you in d2.
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I just read that Guided Games only works in normal mode raids.
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Well said
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Edited by TheShadow-cali: 6/16/2017 1:26:38 AM[quote][b]Since the original reveal we have been told that:[/b] There are no dedicated servers. Special Weapon slots have been removed. 6v6 crucible has been removed. 4v4 crucible, increasing the penalty to solo players. Rumble has been removed. Power ammo can only be picked up by one player. Ships are still just loading screens. Vaults will still not have any Loadout or Sorting facilities. No separation to balancing PvP and PvE. Machine guns removed. [b]The positives I've seen since the original stream are:[/b] Guided Games The ability to revive a teammate in hard mode raids. Did I miss anything? Oh yes, they brought the bloody Taken back.[/quote] Only one activity now that a clan or just frends can interact with as a group of 6. Thought games were supposed to move forward not backwards. Hmm, is Y1 actually the end of this companies 10 year plan and this company is running the game backwards?
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1 ReplyYou forgot to add "the shelf"
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Can anyone link to someone from bungie saying the thing about being a to rez in hard mode please?
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Revives in hard mode??? What are we... p|_|$$135??
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8 Replies[quote][b]Since the original reveal we have been told that:[/b] There are no dedicated servers. Rumble has been removed. Vaults will still not have any Loadout or Sorting facilities. No separation to balancing PvP and PvE.[/quote] Fixed it. Now let's address the actual problems. 1. Dedicated servers was never going to happen. If Call of Duty, which actually had a competitive scene can't get it, why would we? Activision is cheap as hell, this is not a surprise. Plus if we had it the queues would be insanely long. Dedicated for ranked and trials would be nice, but that's still never happening. 2. Removing rumble was an agreeably bad decision. 3. This is something that could very plausibly be patched in at a later date. Although, considering the way they bragged about 3rd party community services, it might take awhile. 4. The flip side is they admitted they can now nerf/buff specific weapons instead of archetypes. This is a step in the right direction at least, and reveals what no one can explain. Bungie wants weapons to feel the same universally as a design philosophy. Aka, -blam!- PvE. Which also is going to be way easier anyway, so I'm not concerned.
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Edited by ABeardedViking: 6/16/2017 1:01:54 AMThing about opinions, they are like assholes. Everyone has one and are mostly filled with shite
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Edited by joey big guns: 6/16/2017 1:17:42 AMHmm, as a solo player for the entree part of the last three years I am enjoying everything they've shown. Dedicated servers....🙄 seriously the last three years haven't even been bad, some of y'all are just drama queens. Removal of special weapon slot...not even a problem, unless you're one of those "dependents" 6v6 replaced by 4v4...why's that bad? I'll still be going in there to do what I've done the last three years, kill someone before I die. Only thing that has changed are two less people. No Separation of PvP and PvE...didn't they say in the reveal there would be, I could be wrong...it was a few weeks ago. Sorting...eh, I've wanted something like this but it's not like it's that damn big a deal, pal. Ships as Loading screens...seriously bruh...does it matter? Go play Warframe if you're that desperate to walk around on a ship. Machine guns removed...🤷;♂️ If you're butthurt about what they're doing don't buy the game, ain't like someone will force you to purchase it. I'm sure someone else will gladly take your place.
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relax....machine guns, 6v6, rumble will all be added as paid dlc
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12 Replies[quote][b]Since the original reveal we have been told that:[/b] There are no dedicated servers. Special Weapon slots have been removed. 6v6 crucible has been removed. 4v4 crucible, increasing the penalty to solo players. Rumble has been removed. Power ammo can only be picked up by one player. Ships are still just loading screens. Vaults will still not have any Loadout or Sorting facilities. No separation to balancing PvP and PvE. Machine guns removed. [b]The positives I've seen since the original stream are:[/b] Guided Games The ability to revive a teammate in hard mode raids. Did I miss anything? Oh yes, they brought the bloody Taken back.[/quote] Opinion based pros vs cons. To me, I think it's all great stuff all of it. To others it's trash so, my responce to that is. "One mans trash, is another mans treasure."
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Really? I'm literally the complete opposite. Every bit of new information that is given out makes me more and more hyped for D2.
