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Edited by bill_westie:
6/16/2017 5:39:44 AM
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With every reveal and interview, D2 looks worse
[b]Since the original reveal we have been told that:[/b]
There are no dedicated servers.
Special Weapon slots have been removed.
6v6 crucible has been removed.
4v4 crucible, increasing the penalty to solo players.
Rumble has been removed (may return later)
Power ammo can only be picked up by one player.
Ships are still just loading screens.
Vaults will still not have any Loadout or Sorting facilities.
No separation to balancing PvP and PvE.
Machine guns removed.
Guided Games not available for Nightfalls and heroic endgame activity.
Private games removed on launch.
Taken are back.
[b]The positives I've seen since the original stream are:[/b]
Guided Games - limited. See above
The ability to revive a teammate in hard mode raids.
Gun specific weapon balancing
Did I miss anything?
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#Destiny
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10 RepliesI would just like to say that I hate this whole argument that ships should do more. Destiny is a first person shooter among other things. Not only would ship gameplay be pointless, but it's a waste of space. You are telling me that instead of a well rounded story with great cutscenes and fleshed out characters you would rather have stuff to do with your ships? Personally i would much rather have a better story. But to each its own
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Edited by Enochua: 6/16/2017 8:52:03 AMLOL either your info is flawed, or its a biased opinion. you do realize that the team that is making destiny 2 now isn't the team that released destiny 1 unpolished and unfinished right? and if the changes they are doing make the whiners not get the game so be it. you wont be missed. also if the changes they made makes the game more balanced and increases the skill gap I welcome them all. lets just hope that the level and multiple levels of aim assist that was in the destiny 1 is gone.
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Wait....[b][i]NO RUMBLE???[/i][/b] What. The. Fu*k.
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3 RepliesWell they just said that it's going to run in 4K on PS4 Pro but not Scorpio. I'm so sick of their bullshit. The game's a non-entity to me at this point.
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1 Reply[quote]The ability to revive a teammate in hard mode raids.[/quote] Not sure I see this as a positive...just like I wasn't too thrilled with their change of the Nightfall (my only issue with it was having to go to orbit and fly back in, not resetting to the beginning of the instance). On the subject of orbits...can't we just get rid of the stupid ships and just have a screen with big giant words saying loading? Who really wants to watch that fake sky and jet shit every single time...
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I think that I'll just go with, "Darn, they didn't add this or remove that." while I'm having fun with all the new stuff. I totally understand that criticism needs to happen, but I'm not going to let a few downsides ruin my fun.
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Wtf( why the f ) did they remove machine guns and not make it so you can move the ship during the load screen like in war frame?
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yep. That is bungie at work. What a awesome team they have there. GO D2...
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It's going to end up very similar to destiny 1. D1 occupied 85% of my gaming time so, I'm good
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2 RepliesWhy is it that every time Bungie get interviewed they never get asked the hard questions. Every one who interviews them is a pussy.
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2 RepliesCommunity: why is D2 just not that good?... Bungie: well a majority of our team has been working on D3 for a release in 5 years
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I'd say half of these are biased and you could make your opinion about it I mean come on you just don't like the Taken that's the only reason you put it up there while others do like the Taken enemies
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3 RepliesNo rumble at launch. Literally wtf Bungie.
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You got a few bad points but I'm sure there are things that will make up for some of that stuff. And Meh I'm personally not to bothered by any of those things. From what I've seen in my opinion it looks good so I'll buy it anyway.
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Edited by SeawolfManiac: 6/16/2017 5:46:58 AMMy response: [quote]There are no dedicated servers.[/quote] There is a hybrid server that uses P2P and dedicated servers. I wouldn't list this as a con till we see the game in action. [quote]Special Weapon slots have been removed.[/quote] Not sure how I feel about this, neutral till I can play the game. [quote]6v6 crucible has been removed.[/quote] Agree with you on this one, this a con. [quote]4v4 crucible, increasing the penalty to solo players.[/quote] Agree with you on this one, this a con. [quote]Rumble has been removed.[/quote] Agree with you on this one, this a con. [quote]Power ammo can only be picked up by one player.[/quote] This just adds a little bit more balance that was lacking in D1. [quote]Ships are still just loading screens.[/quote] As if I wanted to see more of my ship after D1. They just made going to to orbit optional. If you want a racing/ship game play another game! [quote]Vaults will still not have any Loadout or Sorting facilities.[/quote] Yea they do. It's called armor and weapons. [quote]No separation to balancing PvP and PvE.[/quote] I don't know where you got this one because it's completely false. All nerfs/buffs are seperate from PVP/PVE. [quote]Machine guns removed.[/quote] All weapons are 1 hit weapons. Apparently Bungie has been wanted to phase out LMGs from the game for some reason. [quote]Guided Games not available for Nightfalls and Heroics.[/quote] I don't think this was meant to be as replacement for LFG and is only expose to be used . It's expose to help people find a clan so they don't have to use LFG in the first place. [quote]Private games removed on launch.[/quote] As long as it comes back ASAP, no con. [quote]Taken are back.[/quote] As long as they don't appear as often as D1 I can deal with it.
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Agree !
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Machine guns were removed?
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3 RepliesYou forgot stuff: No ranked PvP playlist No private/custom games No guided games for heroic activities (which kind of contradicts the entire concept of guided games)
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Saying that its removed doesnt mean it wont come back d2 bungied foced on core game elements not everything at aluach to perfect them or add more to them like private matches maybe with the ablitiy to change more options and Btb modes just with better maps to fit it and for the rumble mode maybe first they will try to see how the crusible is balenced since the meta shines in rumble and trials
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Looks better to me. Pumped for this one
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D1 looks better than D2
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Edited by Satanic Mechanic: 6/16/2017 4:51:24 AM[quote][b]Since the original reveal we have been told that:[/b] There are no dedicated servers. They have made a hybrid of DS and P2P we will see for ourselves in the beta if it's any better... Special Weapon slots have been removed. Yeah that's kinda annoying but I get it...for pve and PvP reasons... 6v6 crucible has been removed. Yeah I'm disappointed by this as well... 4v4 crucible, increasing the penalty to solo players. I don't see how... Rumble has been removed. Don't agree with this myself but I'm sure it we'll be added in esp if everyone is asking for it... Power ammo can only be picked up by one player. True but there are more areas to pick up heavy in PvP (no more asshole yanking it when no one else is around) Ammo in pve as always been by player only...(except for the few ammo boxes in strikes and such) very easy to apply to full team in pve stuff... Ships are still just loading screens. They have never even hinted at us being able to use them and ship loading screen is better than a normal loading screen... Vaults will still not have any Loadout or Sorting facilities. I've not heard about the sorting tho I'd like to see that myself but not a game breaker imo... No separation to balancing PvP and PvE. They already do is in "we nerfed shotguns damage in PvP but upped the damage in pve"... Machine guns removed. True I like hmg but we also get like 4+ new weapon types... [b]The positives I've seen since the original stream are:[/b] Guided Games The ability to revive a teammate in hard mode raids. Did I miss anything? Oh yes, they brought the bloody Taken back.[/quote]
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If you are so disappointed, don't buy it but then don't complain about it. If you are going to buy it, try constructive criticism. Maybe down the road they'll listen and make a few changes. Ranting about the game isn't going to help. I'm sure all of us are pleased with some changes and displeased with other changes. But for most of us we have not had a chance to actually play the game so we really don't know how it's going to be. Just chill and wait for the beta and then make your observations.
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1 ReplyEdited by Dekirk: 6/16/2017 4:21:17 AMDon't agree with all, but definitely with 80 percent of it. Crucible is going to be less fun that seems a definite. But we will see. Gun and ammo changes are total crap. Also, Titan and Warloc skate is gone. Blink is gone---no problem it is a crutch for folks who can not escape and evade. They needed to add and improve on what they have, not take away and shuffle. They will have a mix of ptp servers and dedicated as well.
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You forgot a positive being that they can balance individual weapons now
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2 RepliesThey did say it was a dedicated server/P2P hybrid of whatever the heck it is
