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2/14/2017 6:02:22 PM
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Hungering Blade Clarification for Hotfix 2.5.0.2 Patch Notes

We just launched [b]Hotfix 2.5.0.2[/b] which contains a Sandbox tuning pass and changes to the Crucible. If you want an in-depth exploration into some of these changes you can watch our [url=https://www.twitch.tv/videos/120721482]live fire demonstration here[/url]. For those interested in the bullet points we have the full [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45661]Patch Notes[/url] up as well. In the interest of full transparency, we do need to clarify something in this update. Our test team discovered that the changes to the Blade Dancer Perk Hungering Blade were being applied to several other Health Regen Perks. Here is a quote from Sandbox designer Josh Hamrick. [quote]Over the last couple of days, as we continued to test the patch, it came to our attention that the changes we made to Hungering Blade were unintentionally shared among a number of additional elements (list below). While we considered delaying the hotfix to remove the shared change, we ultimately decided to live with the patch we’d made and tested. We believe that Hotfix 2.5.0.2 is an important step forward to maintain the health of the game and that getting it out to you ASAP is in everyone's best interest. And besides, no one wants to show up empty handed on Valentine’s day. List of affected elements: • Hungering Blade (Arc Hunter) • Transfusion (Striker Titan) • Cauterize (Sunbreaker Titan) • Lifesteal (Voidwalker Warlock) • Red Death perk • Suros Legacy Perk (Suros Regime) • No Backup Plans • Ward of Dawn cast • The Ram • Apotheosis Veil • Embrace the Void (Voidwalker Warlock) Over the next couple of weeks, we will be diligently watching and listening to what you have to say about these changes. While we will be unsurprised if additional tweaks need to be made, we are honestly super interested to see how these changes, intended or not, play out. We will be relying on you to give us your feedback as you grow accustomed to the feel of the game over the next couple of weeks. We will also be with you ingame, playing along and making our own notes… Apparently, I have to redeem myself for my stream performance anyway. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a 1st date with a potential Skorri fix… [/quote]
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  • Bungie, I actually like this patch because NO SHOTGUNS, But PLEASE fix the perks you broke during the update. Also the Auto Rifles still need a buff. A 0.05% buff does absolutely nothing. I believe if you fix the above the patch would much better.

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  • Two-thirds of my job is development management (admittedly not for gaming), and I get more exasperated by this screwup every day. Seriously, how could so many teams involved collaborate on this failure? Dev manager: poor risk assessment and/or assigned work to an unskilled resource. Developer: WTF no search for references to the property or method? Seriously?!? Unit Test: if that team exists, you guys are actually off the hook. The change to hungering blade did in fact update hungering blade. Not your fault. QA: sure, you can't test every event in the code, but you didn't think to test the other places the same functionality is provided? Was there even a regression test plan? Is it not updated or customized based on the code changes being delivered? UAT: Based upon how late this bug was identified, I'm actually going to give you guys credit for finding it. And assuming I'm right, you guys deserve a pat on the back. Community lead/ Management: Green lights a patch even though they know it contains 10 game-altering new bugs, all of which take away from the players' powers. Either there was a major failure by your community folks to convince management about the severity of the bugs and that they were showstoppers, or you did your job but management basically said "The customers can go screw themselves, we're not spending another dime on destiny 1." What the actual F!

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  • Edited by squirtingsquirl: 2/17/2017 1:59:28 AM
    Game is garbage now, goodbye Distany. Will come back if you fix this terrible patch.

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  • Edited by tofurene: 2/17/2017 1:53:02 AM
    This was obviously not well thought out, you've destroyed your own game and are trying to play it off that anyone is happy about it! I've been playing since year one never once even considered not playing even with some of the crap "patches" and "updates" I was even ok with nothing from year one carrying over to year two. But this garbage right here I will not longer be playing until this "fix" is gone. Stop trying to fix the game that's about to be obsolete anyways. Why can't you just leave us alone and focus on destiny two.

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  • [b]Community[/b]: We really hate this patch. What are you going to do to fix the perks you broke during the update? 🤔 [b]Bungie[/b]: (In Trumps Voice) We're hearing things. Fantastic things about this patch. We worked really hard on it and people really love it. The community really loves us. Thanks for asking.

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    • Edited by miiiids: 2/15/2017 5:51:09 PM
      I'm enjoying the low rate of fire pulse buff. It was needed. But I think it could have done with just a body shot damage buff. Either way it seems to work the same. I just feel its a little unfair they were already faster time to kill than clever dragon. So now the two burst can happen much faster. So in that aspect it doesn't work the same and works much better. And pretty much its almost untouchable by other pulses now. But the low rate of fire seem to ghost bullet rarely like they're a hand cannon. Definitely the hardest gun type I've ever used especially before patch. But I'm enjoying the patch overall. Besides all the no lands. And I only disagree with that because its going to lead to a nerf. And I seriously disagree with the universal Nerf? What is wrong with you guys riding the matador bandwagon so hard that you had to put the universal even further in the dirt? Seriously you guys have to be out of your mind. Do you even think about things sometimes? Uni wasn't even bring used at all. Yet matador with 20% of crucible kills doesn't get its own specific Nerf. And you guys said you didn't want to Nerf things. That has lost a decent amount of respect and is pretty hypocritical. The stats should at least somewhat reflect your doings. And you run truth into the ground with a one round mag. At least give it two. And I've never ever used it and I'm saying this. That's sad bungie. You need to look inward upon your ideal self.

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      • I played about 5 games this evening. Main account. 3 out of the 5 games the entire team spawned and literally stood there. Didn't move. Just took up position and team shot anything that moved. Corner crouching with Icebreaker, head glitching with whatever. Whenever I tried to push or make a move...I had no backup. Cause my team was doing the exact same thing. The other 2 were lagged so badly I just left. This is the worst you've made crucible, for me at least, since launch. To be very honest I don't want to stop play Destiny. But I'm not playing this shit. It's trash man.

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      • LOL did you guys delete the bungie bounty post?

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        • The only good thing about the patch is auto rifles are somewhat better. Everything else sucks, why didnt you do anything about fusion grenades? What's the point in getting rid of Quick draw on bladedancers + nerfing already nerfed blade. You NERF everything people like and give us s***. @bungie listen to your followers.

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        • I hate seeing the "Bungie replied" sticker on posts like this. Cause I'd really love to know what was said, but there's no finding it in a sea of over 4000 comments.

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          • Edited by Rhadamanthus13: 2/17/2017 1:11:40 AM
            Hey does anyone know where I can get a job for being totally inept, incompetent, unprofessional, have no common sense, and SUCK at playing my own creation? Maybe bungie is hiring or should be hiring. They should be looking for true professional people within the field instead hiring their friends and friends of friends will little skill or intelligence in regards to this multi-billion dollar industry. You see herein lies Bungie's fatal flaw ....... They are all a bunch of retarded monkeys FU(K!N€ a football.

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          • Edited by The Quillster: 2/17/2017 1:05:59 AM
            So basically, you guys -blam!-ed up and were too lazy to change it

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          • Edited by WormChi: 2/16/2017 11:06:46 PM
            It's mid Feb. Last patch was in mid Sept. How is such epic -blam!- up even possible with the amount of time you had? I'll be sticking to For Honor until you straighten out this mess.

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          • Matter of fact I'm really pissed, I'm a glutton for punishment so I'll probably keep playing but in all honesty I'm sick of the incompetence and bullshit. So I say this. -blam!- you Bungievision

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          • See in other companies they would fix things that wren't intended because well, they wren't intended. You guys on the other hand just said "to hell with it, the idiots will play and don't care anyway". This is why you get so much hate, oh wait these are the Bungie forums, you wont read any if these comments anyway.

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          • Only question that I have is are you guys intentionally trying to make the game kill itself?? Because since this patch the numbers are dwindling down every day so far.. even streamers are deleting all characters and deleting the game on stream. Rip destiny 09/2014-02/2017

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          • The ADS time was actually lowered for shotguns instead of increased.

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          • Does this effect when you slam the spark in rift as well? That regenerates your health. If hp there regenerates as usual then I would say bungie is just TRYING to pass off these nerfs as unintentional...

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          • I tried playing again tonight this patch is garbage. One of the biggest problems is teams that spawn kill with special, heavy, and supers and since you only have a primary you can't do shit about it. This game is now garbage player base is going down hill. Bungie is a bunch of idiots.

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            • Thanks guys for ruining my favourite game, great job. It's a worthless piece o f shit now. Awesome. Tell your sorry ass developers what a shit job they did. -blam!- you!

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            • Bladedancer is easily the sub-class that gets shit on the most. And yet it's the weakest sub-class of all. And then bungie decides to nerf it some more. #GoodJob. And by nerfing more, they effect everything else. Haha. What a joke.

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            • [quote]We just launched [b]Hotfix 2.5.0.2[/b] which contains a Sandbox tuning pass and changes to the Crucible. If you want an in-depth exploration into some of these changes you can watch our [url=https://www.twitch.tv/videos/120721482]live fire demonstration here[/url]. For those interested in the bullet points we have the full [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45661]Patch Notes[/url] up as well. In the interest of full transparency, we do need to clarify something in this update. Our test team discovered that the changes to the Blade Dancer Perk Hungering Blade were being applied to several other Health Regen Perks. Here is a quote from Sandbox designer Josh Hamrick. [quote]Over the last couple of days, as we continued to test the patch, it came to our attention that the changes we made to Hungering Blade were unintentionally shared among a number of additional elements (list below). While we considered delaying the hotfix to remove the shared change, we ultimately decided to live with the patch we’d made and tested. We believe that Hotfix 2.5.0.2 is an important step forward to maintain the health of the game and that getting it out to you ASAP is in everyone's best interest. And besides, no one wants to show up empty handed on Valentine’s day. List of affected elements: • Hungering Blade (Arc Hunter) • Transfusion (Striker Titan) • Cauterize (Sunbreaker Titan) • Lifesteal (Voidwalker Warlock) • Red Death perk • Suros Legacy Perk (Suros Regime) • No Backup Plans • Ward of Dawn cast • The Ram • Apotheosis Veil • Embrace the Void (Voidwalker Warlock) Over the next couple of weeks, we will be diligently watching and listening to what you have to say about these changes. While we will be unsurprised if additional tweaks need to be made, we are honestly super interested to see how these changes, intended or not, play out. We will be relying on you to give us your feedback as you grow accustomed to the feel of the game over the next couple of weeks. We will also be with you ingame, playing along and making our own notes… Apparently, I have to redeem myself for my stream performance anyway. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a 1st date with a potential Skorri fix… [/quote][/quote] *loud fart*

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            • Happy to offer free advice to the bungie developers. Please hit me up sometime. I'm a very experienced project manager/Board adviser ^.^

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            • I don't really mind the update I'm a casual player...... However I'm mostly a pve player and the Nerf to bladedancer hurts the voidwalker. All the exotics I use like ram and perks like embrace the void, life steal. This has virtually broken the voidwalker setup that I enjoy playing. Please at least consider fixing this as I only play warlock voidwalker. I don't really like any other setups and I love voidwalking

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              • The health regen bug is crapping all over PVE. Red Death is dead. Voidwalkers are junked. Defenders are junked. Fix it!

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              • Great job destroying PVP, the only thing that was left of this game. Day1 beta player here officially done and looking for something else to play. You are forcing people to now use sidearms and ammo regenerating special weapons. RIP destiny. Fusions and every other non regen special are now worthless. I was excited for destiny D2 but now with this patch I will be looking elsewhere. Later and good luck with your future sandbox updates. Playerbase numbers must have fallen off a cliff with this patch.

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