You just gotta use their mobility to your advantage.

Armor really is insignificant. My Hunter is easily my best character and I run a full recovery and agility build. Sure a tripmine will kill me, but we did some play testing last night and found that only a Titan with max armor can tank a sticky. We didn't try warlock with Ram Helm, but I would imagine they can't tank a sticky either. So the clever dragon for example, it's still a 3 shot kill on a Hunter or a Warlock with max armor and lowest possible armor.

As far as pvp goes - it's incredibly hard to switch classes, or even subclasses, & immediately recognize the effectiveness of it. It will take some time & effort to master the advantages of a new class. With all the differences between them there's just no way. Every subclass has that potential to be annoying asf to play against & "OP" in somebody's eyes. & triple of [i]every[/i] subclass is absolute cancer to play against...doesn't matter what it is. Sunsinger, Striker, Stormcaller, Nightstalker - etc etc. Gunslinger is the weakest overall hunter subclass imo. That's not to say that someone can't [b]destroy[/b] with it, I just don't think it's as powerful as the others. No matter how god tier goldie is. I think Blade is a fantastic subclass, but that super is trasssh. I literally feel confident in shitting on a blade virtually every time it's popped. It's sad tbh... & Nightstalker is the best. You can play it both defensively & offensively. & you have the choice to decide pretty much every engagement you want to challenge. If you don't like it, just shadestep out of it. Not to mention all the nades it cancels...& Thunderstrike, & Stormtrance lol. It's so good, & if you use Graviton instead of Bones you can literally never get baited unless you're straight up garbage. How effective a subclass is comes down to how willing the player is to learn it... Granted there's a lower learning curve for some subclasses than others, it still applies. If you don't play to your strengths, you're not playing to your potential. & you'll get way more deaths than you could be getting.

That's because you're thinking like a Titan, not a Hunter. Hunters are the hawks and the eagles, striking their prey with precision. The keys to being a good Hunter are range and awesome cloaks.

To everyone saying hunters are easy mode, yes we have skips, wombos and shadestep but you know what we don't have? God range melees. Health regen for breathing in. Overshields if we tickle someone. Flying ffs (Titan skating) Our only panic super TRAPS people in its radius what do yours do obliterate everything in its radius. A free shield for RUNNING. A seventh column for holding r2 and spastically spamming r3. And the stuff we do have isn't exactly exclusive Skip nades- heard of axions? Shadestep- garrison? Wombos- well, no one else has something like this but don't forget our grenade is so good because we don't have a melee. Stop bitching about hunters. Titans and warlocks have way more crutches. [spoiler]I use all 3 classes btw and my hunter has a 1.3 while my titan and warlock sit on 1.6, 1.5 just sayin.[/spoiler]

Remember to look fabulous as a Hunter That's our main rule

So easy mode...Just plain easier for regular crucible. Can't comment on trials, but just look at KD from guardian.gg. Bladedancer 1.11 in trials...highest by far.

Hunters take no skill... Anyone can play a hunter

We're a dying breed, the struggle is real on a hunter

Hunters are the Master Race and require way more skill than Warlocks and Titans do... I mean it's not rocket science is it... didn't you know this?

Hunters have a very good strength: they can run. Fast. Use it to your advantage.

I love my Hunter. Ive been a hunter since the day he game released. And I will never look back. I have one of each but my Hunter is my baby. Sure we don't have stupidly OP supers or ridiculous class perks but if you can learn a Hunters play style then that's an achievement all in its own.

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