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9/9/2016 2:49:05 AM
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Thorn

GG Bungo. Took an already below average weapon and killed it.

Yes, because people complained about Thorn. An already below average handcannon with a dead perk. Let's make it even worse. Great thought process smh Do y'all think this nerf was deserved?
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  • It could of been fine if they just made the lingering perk last a bit longer. It could of keep sheilds down and could show where the ememys went to in the case they try to run away. I hated the HOW's meta but dam bungie do you know how to balance your games any more?

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  • Thorn shouldn't even be returning. Lmao

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  • They need to buff Thorn. I think people find it more annoying than OP. It's not even OP though. Hawkmoon and The Last Word have a way faster kill time than the Thorn. Even legendary Handcannon's can kill faster than Thorn.

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  • It was much needed yes

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  • Wish bungie just removed it from the game tbh. Yes I used thorn year 1

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  • Definitely not needed, unless bloom is removed. Then it might be alright.

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  • I always loved the gun, even back before it was good in crucible. I didn't mind that it was average but now, yeah, it's dead.

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  • You should watch some sweats from the past few months. For being a "dead" weapon, it sure was used a lot.

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    • Maybe u just need to git gud with hand cannons

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      • Edited by NervouspyZ: 9/9/2016 3:02:04 PM
        Some time in April Weisnewski: So, how are my weapon tweaks working? Deej: Their guns are worse than ever, by Rise of Iron, they'll be hard pressed to get a kill in less than 5 shots. W: Marvelous, sir. D: What does September look like? W: The Universal Remote will be useless, snipers will become harder to use and may not 1-shot, and their Iron Banner Bounties will disappear! D: Excellent W: And, of course, sir, The traditional 0.00425% buff for Auto Rifles. You seem concerned sir, what's wrong? D: How is... [b][i][u]IT[/u][/i][/b]? W: Almost no one uses the Thorn anymore, sir. It is but a forgotten memory. D: Nerf it again. W: But sir, there's nothing going for it other than range. D: Then we will take that away too. Nerf it. W: I really don't believe that- D: [b][u][i]NERF IT, WEISNEWSKI![/i][/u][/b] W: ...yes, sir... >Weisnewski turns away, a single tear in his eye. Deej takes a grimoire card of the Thorn and tears it.< >Exit Weisnewski< D: Never again. You once made the Guardians feel powerful; happy. You were kicked down, but still found use. You were beaten into the dirt, but still could compete. Never again. Never. >Camera slowly zooms out to show Deej sitting on a throne of sharded Thorns. Using the cylinder of one as a shot glass.<

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        • I've been using it and having next to no problems with the range dropoff. That being said, it had no reason to be nerfed, but Bungie did anyway because they're scared of it. Maybe this will prompt people to stop using it in crucible so it can get a buff or at least rewind to the way burn works now that less DoT artifacts are a thing. Make Thorn great again.

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        • Not at all. Now its going to shoot nothing but ghost bullets. Range equals usable in terms of hand cannons. Oh well. They did a poor weapon balance overall.

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        • Someone never played HoW

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          • I pray they go one step further and completely remove Thorn from the game. DoT has no business being on a gun in a FPS.

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            • They did it because people were already throwing hissy fits in the forums. It was so subpar that it was only going to be used for nostalgia. I saw one guy say oh i got killed by it so much in year one i never wanna see it again nerf nerf nerf. Get over it its one of the few truely unique and truely exotic weapons in destiny. I worked so hard to get mine on my 360 i was so excited to hear i could effectively use it again now that im on ps4. Im still gonna use it but people let me down. Bungie said they were gonna leave it alone

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            • It's not bad actually, I pulled it out and got 3 hate messages, not as much as I used to, but still.

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            • What do you expect from Bungie? Seriously! Damage over Time nerfd for causing Damage over Time, again! Surprised? Doubt that...

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            • Honestly it would make more sense to remove the damage over time and provide a debuff instead, that cuts healing off and increases damage done to a target. This would make it really good in pve. It's a Viking funeral kind of change that would make the gun cool

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            • I was looking forward to using it again as a mainly pve player. A 25% range nerf is a bit extreme. Rather disappointing to say the least. I mean, I'll still use it, but I'll shake my head at every ghost bullet.

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            • Was completely unnecessary. They're too afraid of it becoming op so they would rather just nerf it into the ground. Instead of actually trying to make it balance they just make it terrible. Just sounds lazy to me.

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            • Was it the send it perk that was causing problems when it came to range? Because if so why didn't they just change it something else. Snapshot or something

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              • It's because the range and high RoF were both too good together. Something had to give, and they chose Range becasue it already had Send It.

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                • If I am understanding right I swear they simply brought thorn's range down to every other hand cannons range. It was more like an update as opposed to a nerf, unless you've been using year 1 weapons in crucible still.

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                • Range was nerfed, so what. It doesn't effect the DOT damage, which is where it's power lies

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                  • The people with no thumbs are the ones complaining. They're the same people who pride Universal Remote. Traumatized from y1 still and fear they might actually have to aim a primary.

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                    • Bungie couldn't balance a pillow on a table. I think the sand box team literally still plays in a real sand box.

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