No offense to anyone here, and I'm not pointing out one person that may be for or against optional MM in raids, or any other pve related end game activities. However, this is by far, the stupidest argument that continues to be had on the forums, more than anything else. The only player that suffers any consequences from entering a matchmade raid team optionally, is that player. They take on the burdens of that decision, and of course the other players on that team. Whether this one or that one has no mic, whether this one or that one is a complete noob, whether this one or that one doesn't know left from right, whether they spend seven years on a raid, wtv. This in no way affects those players with premade raid teams, or those that desire to use lfg, in any way, shape, or form. And it's ridiculous to argue otherwise. Optional raid teams are not going to finish the raid faster, by most peoples own admission. for reasons advocates of lfg continue to point out. In point of fact, logically speaking, I think most, if not all of us should agree, that it will take longer, if they manage to finish it at all. So it's honestly baffling to me that anyone would be against it. There are no advantages for matchmade raid teams, but there are many disadvantages, so what's the problem? The only logical conclusion I can draw, is that this argument against is some sort of elitist crap. Players more interested in being Destiny dictators and instructing everyone else how they think the game should be played, instead of minding their own house. And let us not forget that lfg isn't exactly a bastion of finding great raid teams either. You can still run into noobs, players with no mics, etc. Usually the chances of successfully completing a raid with an lfg team are about even, which is probably what the success rate of optional MM would be as well. In any case, whether Bungie decides to implement this or not, this argument needs to end. It makes no sense to even have it.

MM for raids would be horrendous, especially if people have no mics and or no idea what they're doing. Bungie just needs an in-game LFG.

MM for Raids isn't needed. LFG system in game is.

I don't think they should add this at all. There are plenty of places for random players to team up together. I've done plenty of successful raids with random people using the recruitment page on the forum. I feel like matchmaking would not work because you have to rely on the fact that the 5 other people have mic's, know what they are doing and want to take it seriously.

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Would not work. It's super easy to find five other people to raid with using LFG and these forums as it is. The problem is finding five other people who aren't going to be idiots. I've taken a run at KF 4-5 times with random groups and at least one dude on the team wrecks it every time by refusing to do what has to be done (i.e . he'll mistakenly jump off a plate every time, etc.). And that's when people have to go to the trouble of looking for a team. The chance of getting a functional 6 person match made team is basically zero. Just think about strikes. I don't think I've done three strikes in a row that didn't feature at least one person not playing correctly (i.e hanging in the back or AFKing). Match making in the raid sounds like a good idea but it would never work.

They may add it for the new raid seeing as how they're claiming it will be less about mechanics. According to the game informer article anyways. New raid could just be a big prison of elders.

We don't need matchmaking... Instead we need an IN GAME LFG TYPE OF SYSTEM. There should be a board that you can do this Raid? Choose a raid (VoG, CE, KF...etc) Activity? Choose an Activity (Crucible, Nightfall, Strikes, Heroic Strikes, PoE, CoE...etc) Number of players needed 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 Looking for- Experienced or Unexperienced players Mic required? Yes or no Light level? Choose 290-300 300-315, 315-320, 320-335 etc Alert Other Guardians? Yes or No Once you choose to alert other guardians. If they are looking at the same board a message will pop up for them to view. A list of your requirements and what you want to do will be there Guardian1234 would like to do Kings Fall Heroic Number of players needed= 5 Looking for Experienced Players Mic Required= Yes Light Level= 320-335