[b](So in response to what I've been hearing today regarding the latest news for what we can expect from this game, I've decided to go ahead and repost this for a few reasons. The first of which so that you (Bungie) as well as others can see what was said months ago, given as a warning. A warning that many shrugged off. This message still rings true, because I can assure you that if we continue moving along this path things will only get worse and worse.
Original posting can be found here:[/b] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/160069768?showBanned=0&path=0 )
BEHOLD. This is the future you are creating for this game and potentially other AAA titles.
Why does this community hate Destiny so much? I need to ask this question, because if you were any kind of actual fan who loves the concept and potential of this game from back in 2013, why do you continue to destroy this franchise? If you spend money on Destiny, you are hurting it. Period.
[i]Vanilla Destiny?[/i] We were duped into buying an incomplete game.
[i]Dark Below?[/i] We were tricked into buying something we thought was going to be an actual expansion.
[i]House of Wolves?[/i] We were manipulated into buying what we thought was fixing our major gripes, such as ascending older weapons.
[i]The Taken King?[/i] You had no excuse. [b]NO ONE[/b] had any excuse. Bungie/Activision got their three strikes. How many months were we screwed over time and time again? How many on here complained and protested and demanded change...only to go ahead and continue buying the product? You want a voice, you want things fixed or features added. But unless you actually put weight behind your cause, unless you choose to [b]JUST SAY NO[/b] and pull the needle from your arm? Then you can never truly expect anything you want to see ever really happen here. [b]YOU[/b] are your own obstacle standing in your way.
This is simple logic. Its common sense. Now look at what we're seeing happen here. Look at what has been allowed to happen. And I bet your FIRST REACTION to this post is "well its not really that important." If that is your mentality? You only have yourself to blame for what ends up happening down the road.
You seem to think that because this is Bungie that everything is just fine. Its all on the level, right?
That's just a delusion...
[b]ACTIVISION[/b] has been at the front of this from the very start.
The people you loved at Bungie no longer with the studio? [b]Activision.[/b]
An incomplete game at launch with a butchered narrative? [b]Activision.[/b]
Cut Content from the game sold as DLC in the form of false expansions? [b]Activision.[/b]
Unfair Pricing of the new expansion? [b]Activision.[/b]
Paywalls being thrown up to effectively block players out of content they already paid for? [b]Activision.[/b]
THE INTRODUCTION OF MICRO-TRANSACTIONS? [b]Activision.[/b]
Emotes aren't a big deal, right? Who cares. Its all just cosmetic anyway.
[b]What happens when its Weapon Skins?
What happens when its Guardian Customization Options? (Premium Options)
What happens when its Random Engrams?
What happens when its Random Resources? (Motes of Light, Strange Coins, Upgrade Materials, etc.)
What happens when its Legendary Weapons/Armor?
What happens when its Exotics?
What happens when its Etheric Light 2.0? ($1.00 each used to upgrade ONE Weapon or Armor from Year 1)[/b]
How far will it be allowed to go? Do you have any say in it? Of course not, because you just keep spending your money on it. You have become addicted. Your favorite game was hijacked and corrupted by Corporate Commander years ago. In your denial of this, so much has been allowed to happen.
Bare in mind, this is the precedence you are setting for Destiny. This is Stage 1 for micro-transactions. They are "easing you into" the notion of Destiny having an in-game Cash Shop and they are telling you that there will be "free story content" being gradually released because its a trade-off. But you have zero clue what you are really trading off here. Go ahead and watch the video. Take a look at your future.
In case this hasn't made it rather obvious, Bungie, I am 100% AGAINST this Cash Shop concept. There WAS a time when I would have been alright with it. But that was long before everything else that has already happened. Its painfully clear that Activision is calling all the shots and now Destiny is nothing more than a Halo/Borderlands version of COD.
Those Emotes and new Skins should be added to the game for anyone who purchased The Taken King, [b]NOT USED TO TRY AND SUCK MORE MONEY OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.[/b] This is NOT the kind of innovation I have been advocating for and its not something ANYONE should be encouraging any further. I know and you know that TTK was the last of all the Year 1 Content that you had and now you need to spend the rest of this year developing more to be sold, and the "free story content" is only there to keep giving the addicts their periodic "fix" to keep them hooked.
That content is either already finished and was kept out of TTK so as to be released later at intervals or your have a small team assigned to make new missions similar at best to the Taken War quests. Fact is, none of that is really "FREE" though because people already paid for it. Year 2 is all about this new Cash Shop which you'll be expanding over the following months.
I'm still waiting for my original $100 investment to equal the value of its cost. I demand Year 1 Content be overhauled "FOR FREE" so that the game I bought back in 2014 is an actual complete product. THEN. Provided you fix the broken, or rather non-existent progression system for this game, THEN I will possibly consider the notion of buying something. MAYBE. At this point? I see very little reason to do so.
[b]At this point, there isn't much left to be said. How many times must we repeat ourselves? How much more abuse will it take? I wasn't the first nor will I be the last to usher this warning. THIS is NOT the Destiny anyone wants. THIS is NOT the future we want later generations to look forward to. Something has got to give. Either those within the company need to rise up, those who are against this cancer spreading like wildfire as it has already begun to do so. Or the community itself needs to be more heavy handed and learn to deny itself for the betterment of all.
This isn't a joke anymore. This is about as funny as Trump possibly becoming the next President, people. This is dangerous and the everlasting scars it will leave behind on not only this franchise but the industry as a whole is a threat every self-respected Gamer should worry about.
And for those of you who in the past said that you were going to be done with this game the moment this kind of shit became a thing? Yeah, now its time for you to show whether or not you weren't just blowing smoke. Ball's in your court now, folks.
Vaya con Dios[/b]
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A smuck and their money are soon parted. Who cares if they opt to buy out instead of grind out. As long as ALL the gear is earnable via normal game play, what difference does it make. It's the goose that laid the golden egg, and they won't give up that goose easily. Pay to play or whatever catchy term you choose to call it is not going anywhere, it's like Obamacare and here to stay. The main difference being that with pay to play you have a choice whether or not to participate with no real penalty for not, other than more grinding which essentially means more playtime for you. If you are attempting to stop and/or circumvent an industry practice you're to late, the supply and demand of it is already set in stone; so just don't participate that is the only "control" you have over it. I suppose that it's a noble cause but most certainly a fruitless venture. Gone are the gaming days of old, pre internet, where a dev team had to sell you a complete game upfront with enough content to keep you busy for hrs on end. The internet killed that era, now they can sell you part of a game and DLC the rest via the ol' innerweb. Shut down the net and you solve the problem...LOL!
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Bumpatron.
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3 RepliesEdited by jdawg23x: 4/6/2016 12:57:44 AMhttps://youtu.be/YVf7W9LPKls I'll just leave this here. If you can get through it I thank you, it backs up what OP's topic is about. Peace.
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2 RepliesBUMPSATIONAL
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[spoiler]B to the U to the M to the futha mucking P[/spoiler]
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BUMPNADO
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2 RepliesBUMPQUAKE
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BUMPSLIDE
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2 RepliesBumpocalypse.
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Bumpageddon.
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2 RepliesSuch a good video...thanks Mal! https://youtu.be/a6lvDL4cNdM
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6 RepliesSo I've been building my fallout 4 settlements with hours of detail... Using rug glitches and realistic reasonable creativity... Would be amazing to get paid well to play fallout...lol
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13 RepliesHahaha you sir must have shitloads of time on your hands, you've been bleeting the same bleet for ages. Nothing will change, most people don't care and most people probably feel like they got a reasonable amount of satisfaction for their purchase. You've definitely got some staying power when it comes to letting people know about things you don't like so props to you, but I pity the fool who gets your order wrong at McDonalds 😉
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4 RepliesBungie will not be getting my money, anymore. Doom and Titanfall 2 will though.
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6 RepliesGood post. I've cut the knot...slipped my mooring...am now quietly drifting away...
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2 RepliesBUMP ALERT
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13 RepliesEdited by BRAZACK: 4/3/2016 11:11:35 PMIm not buying desyiny2 or anymore emotes because bungievision dosnt listen to us. They have selective hearing. Ill wait for a month or two after destiny 2 release to get the real reviews..
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3 RepliesIm actually worried about the gaming industry....if activision keeps monopolizing on the smaller companies. They keep buying out all these gaming companies and destroying their reputations with their grimy, foul and disgusting agenda of greed to milk the gaming population dry. Sterling packages,festival of th lost and srl packages.....u pay money to get a random item. Its gambling all right. The only thing i ever bought was emotes and i think im done giving these greedy basterds my money. Darksouls3 baby, i preordered already.....screw this game its getting worse with each patch.
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More BUMPS! COMIN UP!
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5 RepliesSome of these responses are hilarious. Haha. Well done.
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Bravo! Well said! Xp
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9 RepliesWow. Lot of angry people here, Mal. Not saying you're wrong, but wow.
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1 ReplyEdited by Lizard King: 3/31/2016 4:22:47 PMBungie somehow reminds me Ottoman Army. When Ottoman Army was on their way to war they seem to have an interesting walking method. 2 steps forward 1 step backwards. Bungie is actualy even worse ten that ,. They try to highlight one good move : Free Update and then do tens time worse by implementing Pay to Win. No matter how you want to rename that system i don't care. it is clearly designed as a Pay to Win system. Why do you guys think they corrected the longly bitched Infusion ? Do you really think anyone would dared to buy those packages with old infusion system ? Nay Simple reality my friend , we are becoming old guys as 40 year dudes and new gaming world doesn't accept us
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1 ReplyI laughed the piss outta myself when I saw the twitch stream and at the excitement bungie employees show towards this reskin content I already own...Bungie go -blam!- yourself
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4 RepliesOk let me get this straight. You're blaming Activision right? Sorry I kinda skimmed
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BUMPTACULAR!