It was a beta you moron. One that over 6 million people played and enjoyed more than destiny. Personally I loved destiny but ttk has destroyed what once was. Check my profile if you think I'm just being a troll 1100 hours with only about 150 coming from ttk

Lol. well true it wont steal any of the desticles.. and thats awesome. PvP is awesome, and rewards the Teamplayer and punishes the rogue elitist while granting a possibility that this player can get great rewards if he is really good. but Luckily several weaker player can combine and kill the tryhards if they dont pay attention or drive it too far.. so kudos to the division devs, VERY good idea and system to make pvp enjoyable for everyone.. you dont Have to go against othe rplayers you can also coop while you have to be carefull not to get wrecked at the last second.. high reward , high risk, done quite good.. if you push it too hard, you go manhunt and everyone and their mum will be hunting your ass.. again: very good. The Story, well there is at least one.. and if you played the beta, they pointed out that the story was cut out of the beta for obvious reasons. still there is MORE story than in the combined Destiny universe... of all DLC and expansions.. voice acting is as most of the games ourdays..and if you want to hear something REALLY cringeworty, go watch destiny on german translation.. it hurts.! dont get me wrong, i played closed and open beta and especially the open beta has quite some bugs and flaws and i hope they iron it out soon before the game. (most of them) but: here is what i loke about the division: a.) they did not promised a single thing they did not deliver.. in fact there is about 70% locked away in the beta that we havent been able to see yet, other than in destiny where the beta was pretty much it,apart from some areas, you havent seen anything new in the vanila game that wasnt already playable in the beta.. (like base building, construction, perks, and so on.. ) b.) the division is at a slower pace and thats GOOD since you CAN speed it up but there is always theslow pace that leads to max level eventually, solo, alone, how ever you want.. a thing Destiny is sooo painfully lacking. c.) matchmaking, OG GAWD this is GOOD .. you have real seamles matchmaking, you can have the auto matchmaking run in the background or even check for open groups IN GAME, PLUS you can see where your friends are.. another BIG issue Destiny was and is still lacking like hell.. so dont tell me Destiny >> The Division.. since its clearly isnt.. the division delivered all its promised in the one or other way destiny didnt , the division delivered answers to all the important questions like customization, matchmaking, solo path, raids, pvp, balancing etc some might not be the favourite of the players but at least they HAVE a solution and do not require you to leave the game grab a laptop and search on a third party website for ressources.. i do agree on the Bulletsponge claim, but on the other hand, its a small price you have to pay, and if you get better guns that will fade away quite quickly.. =) (the only thing i HATE is that when you downed an agend, it takes twice the bullets to kill him finally, while you can one hit him with a melee.. not good.. so its not perfect but it offers WAY more solutions to the problems than destiny..

I'm just going to leave this here as a Destiny beta player: Bungie has stolen more hours from me than I'd like to share, and the game they produced fell short of quite a few of my expectations. However, the feeling of excitement went you're at the final killing blow of the raids, or a 4-4 matchup in Trials is hard to come by in video games today. Going rogue rank 5 in the DZ in the Division did that. And better. Needless to say, I'm going to play the Division, a game that's fully embraced the genre "MMO," unlike Destiny. Thanks for your two cents, it's interesting to see how people react to tactical third person shooters.

So you already know the story from a open/closed beta? Do you care to share it with me as I have played both the open and closed beta and not much of the story has been shared at all. The beta had 2 million more testers than destiny (around 6.4mil). And content wise the division's beta had way more content than destiny's alpha/beta. PvP can't comment on that each it's own taste same goes for the overall gameplay (fps vs 3rd person) The weapons and stats IMHO are way better than destiny's weapons and perks/stats. More options and the stats/mods actually make a difference (can't say that about destiny)

Lol story is worst than vanilla Destiny....good joke. Can't be worst than having grimoire cards....Destiny has done the worst of the worst in terms of executive bullshit. I paid 99 Australian dollars for a game that was a 1/3 completed. At least I know the Ubisoft will do a better job...what's bungie done ever since HALO? Lied to their fans, sold expensive DLCs that were not worth it. See ya Bungie. Don't plan on returning anytime soon. You can take your free content and shove it

The division Will steal players from Destiny, no doubt about that . The division is an entirely different game , so comparing It's darkzone 'pvp' tot Destiny 's crucible pvp is stupid. Also the fact that the division is 3rd person and Destiny 1st person is a major difference. Because they are both loot based games ,there is a similaraty ,but that is about it .

Dude it was a beta lol what are you on about?

Feel exactly the same bro.Too much running around huge NYC blocks...

April and boredom will kill division. It's ubisoft, it's what they do.

There isn't that much of a player base to steal from destiny now anyway.

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