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Edited by THE Protoman: 12/14/2015 4:21:01 AM
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Last Word balance- disable ADS completely

The Last Word has emerged as a gigantic problem in crucible once more thanks to the handcannon buff. It is operating at mid range while ADS rendering auto rifles completely worthless and making game modes such as rumble essentially one gun modes if you want to compete. Bungie has shown they have trouble balancing around this one particular gun many times, when it was in control recently it caused nearly every other handcannon to be worthless via the weapon class nerf. What should be done is this- The Last Word needs to lose the ability to ADS completely. It will then be the close range weapon it was meant to be without insane power outside it's intended range and it will no longer threaten the handcannon class as a whole with nerfs. Edit #1. To the many attempting to defend The Last Word, just stop for a moment and think. If it keeps performing like it is there will be a handcannon class nerf again. The result will be that it will be balanced once more while all other handcannons are mediocre to unusable. Edit#2. There are truly an amazing amount of people rushing in with mindless, off the wall insults. So many can provide no argument. We all know TLW is operating outside it's intended range. Try to deflect or just deny the facts. Remember, if the last word isn't dealt with it will destroy the entire handcannon class once more.

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  • Why not make crucible no guns, no melee, no super and no map weapons? When spawn - players can just start running around like headless chickens until times up. Draw match and everyone get exotic engrams :) We have been suffering with so many tunings and nerfs; i miss those period without forum and when you die all the time in crucible = git gud.

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    • Edited by Pjosk85: 12/14/2015 8:02:14 AM
      Y tlw is imba. Everyone that isnt stupid in their brains know this

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    • Kys

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    • It's not meant to be aimed down sights. And it has incredible range and accuracy and damage when you don't. Making everyone learn to use it correct is counter productive to your crying.

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    • Edited by yourOPliberal: 12/13/2015 10:00:17 PM
      Nice edit. Please continue to refer to my previous comment... [quote]You're a scrub if you're struggling against the last word now a days. Back in the Y1 days you would have had a case, but now a days you're nothing but a scrub.[/quote] OP is supporting a scrub mentality. The minute he's killed by something(Something that's not even OP anymore), he starts bitching and moaning because he lacks a basic understanding of PvP.

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      • I have a better idea: [spoiler]git gud[/spoiler]

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      • Lol because the last word is 10x better when firing from the hip... Who the hell aims with it haha

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        • TLW is fine. Nerfing shit has always been the problem

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        • Hawkmoon does pretty well against TLW users. All you have to do is pick your engagements. Don't rush a corner when someone is nearby on the radar for example. I have seen so many people doing this while using a scout rifle or a pulse rifle it's not even funny.

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          • Edited by Nucah: 12/14/2015 5:15:35 AM
            I think it sounds more like you need to pick your battles better. I get wrecked by autos and almost anything else if I am outside of fairly short range with TLW. There are plenty of other options to combat TLW. If you get in real close, you're probably going to lose. The ADS range is horrible really. Take it from a guy with over 40k kills with the gun. I've used it when it had amazing range and I've used it now when the range is horrible. It's honestly most likely your positioning in 1v1 combat. I can't check your profile to see if you have the gun or use it but I encourage you to if you haven't. You'll quickly find that the range is awful.

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          • Your a dumb ass. Tlw rang is terrible ads. Hip fire does more damage and has more range. You just run into people who are good with it. Taking ads away from last word does absolutely nothing for the gun seeing as its strenght comes from hip fire anyways

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            • If auto rifles had been properly buffed, then it wouldn't be such a problem. Right now it's pretty much the only good short range primary weapon and it meshes perfectly with a sniper rifle

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                • Take off ads buff

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                • Oh shut the -blam!- up

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                • Why don't you just learn how to strafe when someone is shooting at you

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                • Pistols are only a tad bit better than just throwing them at your opponent. TLW is only good because you can [b]actually[/b] hit the side of the barn.

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                • Last word is balanced, it's only a viable option now cause all hits actually proc now

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                • It's not that bad.

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                • Dual wield TLWs. Damage is lowered by 25%

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                  • Oh my god you people are retarded

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                  • Scruuuuuuuub

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                  • See this the problem with our community. These kids that never stop complaining that i hope that they start playing good and stop complaining about a gun that they dont have and they get rekt by it. Believe me if this continues pulse rifles will be back to the top and then they'll nerf them and buff them again and the cycle shall continue if we have these pieces if shit crying everyday. CAN I SEE A POSITIVE FORUM ABOUT SOMETHING PLZZZZZZZZZZZ.

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                    • Why do so many of these people immediately cry nerf when they get killed by something. Try new strategies and weapons. Figure out a way to counter it, like staying farther away...

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                    • Lets remove the ability to no scope with snipers aswell then, huh? All snipers have to Ads before they can shoot, kinda dumb right? Yep thats what i see in your post.

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                      • Lol. Nobody at Bungie is going to listen to your sad bullshit because you keep getting rekt. This post was pointless. Sit back down lady.

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