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Overall K/D is an indicator of how good someones individual skill is - prove me wrong.
In saying that, anyone with a < 1.0 k/d is on an entirely different page.
The point I'm making here is your k/d will be a good reflection of your own individual skill in a game which is full of casual PvP players (which is destiny in itself).
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3 RepliesEdited by brigs_PS: 11/10/2015 1:42:27 PMPeople reset characters all the time. So stats also reset. Bunch of fakes running around.
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Maybe if you actually try each game.
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in a clash type game, yes. in an objective game like control, no.
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I match my friends and play competative matches against the top players on 360 and xbone. Am I bad for going negative every now and then? I would still beat 99% of the Destiny playerbase. Thats a challenge btw ;)
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Hey Guardian Before Destiny I never really played online fps. I would buy every cod and play the campaign and then maybe play online for an hour at the most. I wouldn't say I was the best at pvp by a long shot but since I have been playing Destiny I do feel my skills have improved. My photo shows my three Guardians, Hunter left, Warlock right and Titan at the bottom. I only played with a Hunter up until The Dark Below came out. I then had so much stuff in the vault for a Warlock that he was next and then my Titan. I have a spent a third of the time in pvp on my Titan but she has the best k/d ratio. I'm just looking forward to getting to 1.0 All the best Guardians & Happy Hunting
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Agree to an extent but it can also be manipulated by factors other than skill eg. Boosting, lag etc. Ran into some ppl yesterday in trials who all jumped off the map cos they were passage coin farming lol Also solo players playing with randoms coming up against 6 man fireteams could affect your kd. Then there's the fact that not everyone wants to wear their tryhard pants all the time lol
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I think control is a good point of k/d not being an all important indicator of skill. I am not very skilled at PVP yet, but I usually play control type game modes on PVP games. If I concentrate on capturing and controlling points my k/d usually suffers. I usually do well in inferno. I believe that game type is a much better indicator of skill. For the amount of hours I put into this game I am not even rank 3 with crucible yet. So I will definitely improve.
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Im an amazing PvP player and I've gone flawless countless times carrying teams...but I'm also top 1% in suicides so...
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It's not always right, but it's right a good 80% of the time which works well enough for me.
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3 RepliesIt depends on your idea of good, in control matches you can easily boost your k/d by not playing the objective and only going for kills, seems as though 90% or more do this, I suck at PvP but think that the guy with a 5.0 k/d and 0 captures every match is a scrub. Just my opinion.
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Or you could dick around half the time like me. 47 suicides in a single match.
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Edited by zI INFINITY Iz: 11/10/2015 10:32:41 AMI'd say it's definitely an indicator. BUT, it's not always right. I learned this myself after going 9-0 without boons with a 0.9-1.0 KD and a 1.2 KD. Both really solid players, it was so unexpected. [spoiler]if you inspect my hunter: the last ToO game was after the 9-0. We lost on purpose so that team member could get passage coins. [/spoiler]
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3 RepliesSay I'm really good at PvP almost every match I a win and I could hold out in a 3 to 1 battle and still win. I get one or two bad matches. All of a sudden my K/D goes from 2.57 to .57. This should not account for how good I am overall just because I had a bad match or two.
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I would say K/D and W/L, anybody can sit at the back of a map in an objective game mode, but if you have a good K/D and W/L, it means you're actively making a difference in games you enter. Then again, K/D can just indicate how good your teammates are, if they can get the opposition into a spawn lock, increasing KD is easy.
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What If a crucible player mainly plays trials or iron banner whereas another with a higher kd never does they can get a higher kd much easier. Also what if most of someone's PvP time was spent running quests where they have to do things such As 25 sword kills
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What If a crucible player mainly plays trials or iron banner whereas another with a higher kd never does they can get a higher kd much easier. Also what if most of someone's PvP time was spent running quests where they have to do things such As 25 sword kills
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1 ReplyEdited by Stanry Roo: 11/9/2015 2:55:50 PMWhat if I've been fooling around a lot and when I put my try hard pants on I rek everything [spoiler]you just got proven wrong [/spoiler]
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Anyone < 1 is on a different level. Agreed. Anyone > 1, can't tell. I've been forcing custom games by searching matchmaking against other teams, who are very competitive, for a long time. I'm not the only one. They're called "sweaties" for odd reasons. Those games are very close. You're doing well if you pull a 2.0 in sweats, and often go negative in KDR as well. To put things into perspective, I used to pubstomp 24/7 at the beginning of this game so for the first 3 months I had a 5.1 KDR ranked #8 right under AEGabriel who had a 5.2, and we both end up playing sweats more and we both sink in KDR dramatically. I'm at a 2.6 now. By the way playing in teams is a big way to manipulate KDR also.
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The kill death ratio can be easily manipulated by making a fire team and farming kills against from friends alt accounts in rumble. You cycle. Everyone k\d goes up. The end. It isn't an indicator because ts too easy to abuse.
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2 RepliesI have around a 1.0 K/D usually, sometimes I do better and sometimes I do worse. I just play to enjoy it and have fun. But I do agree that a higher K/D does (most of the time) indicate a skilled pvp player. Which is also why I don't bother doing trials.
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It really depends. My K/D is somewhere around 1.56 so I'm nowhere near qualified for MLG status, but that doesn't necessarily say I'm bad. Since I mostly run Control PvP it's pretty stable and a decent identifier that I'm between actually trying and just doing it for kicks. No clans, no chat channels, [u]casul.[/u] Others who are on the opposite spectrum probably fare better, but they could just be having their team carry/protect them so you can't really say that there is skill there either.
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7 RepliesWhat if i dont want to try my hardest every game? What if i want to sit back with an auto rifle and my kd suffers? Does that mean im a bad player? No.
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Disagree, this only applies to pvp players there are some good pve players that dont do well at pvp
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Agree. In Halo I maintained a +K/D...even through the thousands and thousands of custom MLG matches. CoD I usually maintained a 2.6 K/D in each one I played. (world at war, MW 1,2,3, BLack Ops 1) In Destiny it's no different. I keep about. 2.75+ overall. I got to a 3.2 overall when I used to try....but I got into sweaty matches and of course it dropped some. Nearly everyone I play with that has a 2.0+ is a solid player. I have never played with anyone who I thought was a good player yet had a <1 K/D.
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2 RepliesI have 1.3 KD and destiny was my first ever FPS game. Dont know how halo, cod, battlefield or Duck Hunting looks in PVP version. Im a Y1 player and clocked like a million hours on destiny and its PVP. Am i an average PVPer now or better than average with such low K/D even if the first 6 months of playing destiny i averaged 6-8 kills/game (dont mentioning K/D cause it was horrible) ?
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4 RepliesEdited by GroovyTomato: 11/9/2015 2:31:57 AM>play skirmish >have 2 dumbass teammates >run in like headless chickens >commence 1v3 engagement >die >rage >repeat
