[quote]Spectral is just as fair as striker? That’s a funny joke. Especially when striker slam attack is pathetic seeing as it keeps getting nerfed. Losing the aftermath, damage falloff being more present, and taking a good 25% of your super. The shoulder attack takes a good 6.3 (if we want to be as literal as possible). It has poor tracking and worse hit detection, and runs out faster than spectral. Plus mine lasts long if I chain kills, yours last long just because it exists, has wallhacks, is invis, and can reliably kill any super in the game. Not to mention it’s busted exotic.[/quote]Completely untrue, this sounds like you haven't played since the update - shoulder charge takes barely any energy now, regens your health AND extends super allowing you to wipe teams twice
Shoulder charge has insane tracking as well, you can still run at someone and charge somewhere near them and it'll give you the kill 9/10 times
Spectral ONLY lasts long if your invis - and if you're invis you aren't getting kills, if anything striker is stronger then spectral but I'm willing to accept that, no nerfs for spectral or striker. Or nerfs for both, it's really up to you
[quote]Titans moving faster than hunters yet everyone can outrun a striker.
My teammates out here dying to spectral with gwisin and I have to pray that the next 30 seconds I’m not one of them or it just lasts longer. Too bad they can literally see you through walls across the map.
Spectral is way worse than striker could ever be.[/quote]
LOL no, titans have far better and faster jump which makes them quicker then hunters sorry, you clearly havent played pvp since the update if you dont realize that gwisin and spectral were both nerfed and dont last long at all now.
Go compare the speed on running spectral to a striker and you'll see for yourself
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Buddy you can do 16 shoulder charge attacks in FoH. 6.3 * 16 = 100.3. So you’re wrong there. The refunded energy is about that much. Never got buffed on how much you got back, just how often it would activate. Saying spectral only lasts long when invis is like me saying striker last long if I’m constantly killing and even then yours is better. Not to mention you get 32 swipes in spectral and I get half that. Oh well, hunter mains will be hunter mains. Use striker and tell me how it’s even remotely close to spectral blades level of stupidity.
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Edited by Rosenburg: 2/18/2019 10:59:20 PMHey! Don’t loop the few respectful Hunter mains in with them!
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Alright alright. Some of y’all ain’t the typical “bungie hates us” hunter and for that I appreciate you.
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Thank you, this is the first time I’ve seen someone say this.
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This is the first hunter I’ve seen that knows how other hunters (yes warlocks and titans too) can be/ are. XD have a nice day
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Have a good one yourself!
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Edited by Haunter: 2/18/2019 10:44:49 PM[quote]Buddy you can do 16 shoulder charge attacks in FoH. 6.3 * 16 = 100.3. So you’re wrong there. The refunded energy is about that much. Never got buffed on how much you got back, just how often it would activate. Saying spectral only lasts long when invis is like me saying striker last long if I’m constantly killing and even then yours is better. Not to mention you get 32 swipes in spectral and I get half that. Oh well, hunter mains will be hunter mains. Use striker and tell me how it’s even remotely close to spectral blades level of stupidity.[/quote]LOL 16 shoulder charges which you then get energy back for plus have fast movement Go on spectral, pop it, try and swipe 32 times. You'll run out of energy before getting more then 2 kills, you have no idea what you're talking about man
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I tried blind swiping and came out with 6kills. In comp
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Edited by Haunter: 2/18/2019 11:25:33 PMWith your gunslinger I'm sure? Link me the vid
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With Spectral blades and I didn’t clip it.
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Edited by Haunter: 2/18/2019 11:32:54 PM[quote]With Spectral blades and I didn’t clip it.[/quote] Right, you'll understand how everyone here including me will highly doubt that then right? I'm sure you were spamming, got 4 kills and still had enough energy after spamming to get 2 more when they respawned which takes time. Totally. You're current hunter is only level 20, so you cant have spectral to begin with The other day I popped striker and smashed the entire enemy team 4 times back to back. In countdown
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Look at my status, my Main is PS4, my name is TheCoolGuy5978, worst name ever am I right? When I activated sb I was near three of the team so I took them out with three swipes ran to the fourth and proceeded to kill two of the respawned barely missing the third
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Edited by Haunter: 2/18/2019 11:39:15 PMYou realize that you can do the same if not better with a striker/dawnblade right? Pop smash, kill 2, shoulder charge 2, you basically have full super since it returned energy and health, run to spawn with faster jump movement then hunters and kill all 4 again. You can do the same with dawnblade The difference is you only get energy back for spectral with an exotic, it moves slower then both striker or dawnblade unless you're spamming swipe is which case you lose insane amounts of super energy and has no ranged attack like dawnblade or ape attack like striker....
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Well I guess I just have never seen that.
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You can get 16 SC if you spam from start to finish: you can get 32 swipes if you spam from start to finish. Try and shoulder charge 16 times and see if you get a kill let alone 2. Pretty sure I know what I’m talking about. Crucible is 80% hunter after all
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[quote]You can get 16 SC if you spam from start to finish: you can get 32 swipes if you spam from start to finish. Try and shoulder charge 16 times and see if you get a kill let alone 2. Pretty sure I know what I’m talking about. Crucible is 80% hunter after all[/quote] No you have no clue what you are talking about - I play all 3, each class is max you do not, go try spamming 32 swipes and show me a vid where you get more then 2 kills, striker moves faster, regains energy and health for a kill, has the option for a big area of effect attack and has better neutral game with a 1hk melee as well You dont even know pvp numbers let alone how the classes work - hunter is not near 80% ridiculous assertions that you keep making
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No if you even bothered to read the patches spectral blades blind swiping takes no super energy. Go watch fallout plays video on the spectral blades buff and you will see he managed to get almost across the entire map just spamming his light attacks. I can link the vid if you want.
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Not being invis drains a super far faster then being invis Spamming swipes means your super drains something like 10 seconds faster You can test it yourself
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I just made a hunter and i have friends who are hunters. They tested it themselves and so have youtubers. Spectral blades blind swiping does not take super energy. Go watch any video on spectral blades at this point your in denial and i’m done here.
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Edited by Haunter: 2/19/2019 4:25:43 PMDo you read? WHILME NOT INVIS YOUR SUPER DRAINS 10 SECONDS FASTER THEN IT WOULD OTHERWISE So yeah keep claiming it's a good idea to swipe and deny that you end up draining the super by doing so You barely play this game and have no idea what you're talking about
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Okay seeing as you’re really slow I’ll explain this one more time okay? I said if you spam the two then you can get them off. Unless you’re -blam!- you don’t pop a super and immediately spam the attack. So can it happen yea, but you’re an idiot if you do. Please understand that so you can move on okay? Secondly I play all classes and the only one I haven’t maxed is my hunter due to forge grinds and I got bored. I still have plenty experience with all three. I want you to test this okay? Take FoH and fight a spectral blades. Next I want you to look at the crucible emblem and I promise you have more hunter kills than any other class due to them being god damn everywhere. Ask anyone what class they main and 7/10 of them will say hunter. 80% was just to give you the idea that hunters are most of the crucible. Don’t believe me? Go into competitive and see how many more hunters you go up against than the other classes. You’re pure bias to hunter is mind blowing and It shows due to your lack of knowledge outside of your own class. Make a post and ask witch is stronger striker or spectral and watch how many people DONT pick striker. Send me a link to the forum post and you’ll see just how stupid you sound when you even try and compare striker to Jesus aka spectral blades.
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[quote]I said if you spam the two then you can get them off. Unless you’re -blam!- you don’t pop a super and immediately spam the attack. So can it happen yea, but you’re an idiot if you do. Please understand that so you can move on okay?[/quote]Exactly so you bringing up how many times you can swipe is dumb af. [quote]Secondly I play all classes and the only one I haven’t maxed is my hunter due to forge grinds and I got bored. I still have plenty experience with all three.[/quote]Your clearly dont have that much experience if you actually think spectral needs a nerf in anyway [quote]I want you to test this okay? Take FoH and fight a spectral blades.[/quote]What? You smash for an area of effect and if need be a shoulder charge and its game lol [quote]Next I want you to look at the crucible emblem and I promise you have more hunter kills than any other class due to them being god damn everywhere. Ask anyone what class they main and 7/10 of them will say hunter. 80% was just to give you the idea that hunters are most of the crucible. Don’t believe me? Go into competitive and see how many more hunters you go up against than the other classes.[/quote]This is purely what your experience in comp is - why dont you actually check player numbers - 36% are hunters with the other two classes having less yes - but hardly 80%like you claimed youd have to be completely clueless to think 80 of pvp is hunters lol [quote]You’re pure bias to hunter is mind blowing and It shows due to your lack of knowledge outside of your own class. Make a post and ask witch is stronger striker or spectral and watch how many people DONT pick striker. Send me a link to the forum post and you’ll see just how stupid you sound when you even try and compare striker to Jesus aka spectral blades.[/quote]Make a post here where hunters get hated on daily and get asked for nerfs? Lmao It's you who's biased, I have all 3 max, I play all 3, you dont. Period. You are trying to claim a super that moves slow unless you waste all the energy on swiping is better then one that has a huge area smash, can regen health on kills, regens super energy on kills, moves much faster and has better neutral game You havent got a clue what you're talking about. Period.
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I don’t recall asking for a nerf in this thread so you’re wrong again. If you truly believe striker compares to spectral blades you’re dumb. I’ll take invis, wallhacks, being able to literally beat any super, having the highest armor still, and the most attacks possible out of any super. You can have 3 slams that can’t ohk any super, a shoulder charge attack that has poor tracking, a laughable amount of super energy gained for killing someone when there are exotics are do it better, and being animation locked after every attack. Get your facts straight hunter. Why do you think hunter run the crucible? Who’s super do you think is most dominate? Spoiler alert it ain’t Titan, it damn super isn’t warlock. That’s a fact. Ask around if you don’t believe me.
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[quote]I don’t recall asking for a nerf in this thread so you’re wrong again.[/quote] You're defending op who is [quote]If you truly believe striker compares to spectral blades you’re dumb.[/quote]No, if you believe striker isnt BETTER in many ways you're completely cluless [quote]I’ll take invis[/quote]Which you move incredibly slow with while active [quote]wallhacks[/quote]Which you claimed wasnt good when discussing OEM - BIAS 100% CONFIRMED LMAO [quote]being able to literally beat any super[/quote]Doesnt beat nova bomb, doesnt beat dawnblade, doesn't beat chaos reach, doesnt beat striker, doesnt beat sentinel, doesnt beat hammers, doesnt beat golden gun, doesnt beat arcstaff, doesnt beat blade barrage If you cant counter a melee based super with ranged ones and ones that can block stun that's 100% on you, git gud [quote]having the highest armor still, and the[/quote]Except it doesn't[quote]most attacks possible out of any super. [/quote]LOL what? It has the most attacks? Yeah and all of it is melee based, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen and I've been on this forum for years, you really are dumbass of the year. [quote]You can have 3 slams that can’t ohk any super[/quote]Mo only kills everything else lmao, but sure let's pretend clearing a room isnt good, not to mention the slam does massive damage - even to supers [quote]a shoulder charge attack that has poor tracking[/quote]LOL shoulder charge tracks if you aim even near someone - you obviously cant use it, doesnt make it bad [quote]a laughable amount of super energy gained for killing someone when there are exotics are do it better,[/quote]BIAS you gain a chunk of energy per kill - more the nerfed gwisin vest and that's without strikers needing the exotic slot. Fail more buddy [quote]and being animation locked after every attack.[/quote]Because a shoulder charge animation lasts so long right? Lol [quote]Get your facts straight hunter. Why do you think hunter run the crucible? Who’s super do you think is most dominate? Spoiler alert it ain’t Titan, it damn super isn’t warlock. That’s a fact. Ask around if you don’t believe me.[/quote]Its you who needs facts fool - "hunters are 80% of pvp" "wall hacks aren't good unless were talking about spectral blades" lmfao