I can not stand the pvp in this game. It’s still the ducking shotgun spamming sliding tryhards every map and the matchmaking is piss poor. Matches are never close. It’s always a blow out one side or the other and the full stack of teams vs a team of solo players needs to stop. It’s becoming literally a game of only a few weapons matter.

Crucible’s never been fun for me. Unless i have a shutgun in energy, sniper in primary, and a colony as a heavy, with a panic super.

Oh wow its a lesser spotted sleeper whinge post!! The sleeper is available to all and isnt behind rng so if you cant beat them,join them! There are plenty of ways to counter the sleeper ffs! It’s not the weapon that needs to change,it’s the mechanics in gambit. Invader wall hack is what needs to change,give the invader 5 seconds of visibility or a radar pulse and as soon as they fire all buffs like that are gone. Sleeper is fine how it is and does what its meant to do. As for crucible if you cant counter some shotgun sliding half wit then you probably shouldnt be in there in the first place. Most of the people who cry about weapons in crucible are the ones who cant use them adequately or a stuck using the same 3 weapons they been using the past year an cant adapt!

Agreed....shotguns have ruined it for me as well

LOLz, if it’s not fun, find something else to do. Life is simple like that. It’s funny how some like to be overly dramatic over frivolous things in a video game. Think about it, at the end of the day it is and always be just a video game.

You’re just bad and passive who can’t keep up with the speed. Not everyone wants to play passive.

Crucible has been broken since launch in 2014. It can’t be fixed otherwise it would of improved a long long time ago. You accept this and simply don’t play it more than you have to.

Don't burn me at the stake and call me a witch for this...but I actually had more fun with crucible before 2.0. Besides the obvious outliers of graviton and vigilance wing, most weapons felt completely viable and a lot of diversity was around...but all's I see now is the never ending supply of different shotguns and pulse rifles. It's not fun dying instantly at close range or getting melted faster than any other weapon in the game cross map by pulses. And if I'm told to "adapt" or "git gud," I'll let you know that by using what's the most effective or using the same weapons =/= to effective counters. Using a shotgun to beat a shotgun isn't a counter. Cross mapping someone using bygones with bygones isn't a counter. Playing like that is not how I play and if I don't get to play how I want then I don't play it. I'll stick to my auto rifles, handcannons, and snipers thank you very much. Gambit is fun to me, but dying to sleeper over and over is repetitive and quite honestly annoying. It's not always hard to counter, but if they have the catalyst it just becomes so much harder to fight. It gets too much ammo, instakills supers, and melts pve enemy health with ease. Since whisper, for whatever reason, gets less ammo from heavy bricks and is harder to aim with especially when getting shot at...its not a worthwhile weapon 95% of the game. Sleeper is probably the single best all around heavy in the game, with thousand voices being the only one that even comes close. The versatility in it's usability, as well with it's power, ease of use, and overall ammo economy makes sleeper so annoying to fight.

I loving pvp right now. Have to agree whit gambit tho sleeper is cancer in gambit.

It is a fun and balanced game. Our game is cheat free. We would never allow cheaters or give out your information to other companies. If you don't like it , Don't play it. :Edited by Mod.

I feel like people are exaggerating quite a bit. I didn’t play D1 and played all of year 1 D2 and played over 2300 matches. When weapon slot changes happened for the first 3 days I was complete fodder. The pace had changed so much I couldn’t keep up. Then on the 4th day everything just kinda slowed down. I equipped a shotty and though I’m an aggressive player which means more often than not I make careless mistakes but I’m still doing better than prepatch. You have to adapt. I get countered with my shotgun constantly and the only players your going to just rush are the ones not looking at radar.

Play fortnight, its fun.

I cannot stand the map designs.

Crucible completely stinks now....the wonder shots through walls has returned along with teleporting foes and guess what? Some knob having the Ace of Spades on full auto.....use of some form of game enhancer methinks......yep the bollox that is crucible is there for all to see....