SBMM should be in competitive, not quickplay. Bungie should also allow players to choose between sbmm and cbmm - it was actually a thing in halo...

Absolutely not, if you want to only match similar 1.2s go to comp. Quickplay by literal definition is supposed to find the quickest possible match regardless of skill, connection or other criteria You've been babied enough with d2, if you enter qp you accept that the allies and opponents are completely luck of the draw

SBMM for comp? Yes For qp? No, it doesn't belong in the non-competitive playlist. That's all there is too it Btw when I was growing up playing the halo games I don't recall anyone ever begging the devs for protection from better players, I'm truly aghast at how babyish and participation trophy like people have become. SMH

you're getting reminded of how bad you are. SBMM was horrible, like everything Bungie have no sense of balance, when first introduced in D1 being from Australia with top 5% - 10% in ever stat id just sit in the lobby till i got mongoose error which is search time out because i just wouldnt find anyone unless it was a peak time and even then i had about a 1 - 2 hour window. Reality is and this has been said before by the PVP Devs is that theres nothing to fix, if you cant go flawless its because the other team is better then you, there is no need to make it easier for bad players to go flawless.

The same thing you're doing in a lobby with below 1.0 kd opponents in the next match. No need for any degree of SBMM in quickplay. It does not belong there.

If you spent half the time improving instead of replying to every post, you might actually become a better player.

SBMM has no business in Quickplay. It's funny when people use their worst experience to justify having a safety net in pubs. ✋🏼

Shit happens. I'm sure players who are worse than you wonder why they're matched against very average 50yo. Bungie tried sbmm and the community didn't like it because connection quality was trash. So there ya go.

I understand your frustration, I'm going to give my thoughts on this. I'm a top 1% that is t500 in multiple playlists (not saying it to brag, just so you can see the perspective of a high level player). So the SBMM debate will always exist, the top players are against it and the lower players are against it for obvious reasons on both sides. I completely understand that those low level players are not having the most fun time in the crucible due to no SBMM, and the argument "you learn by playing against better players than you" is true to some degree but a 0.5kd won't learn anything against a 2kd, in fact he'll learn to not play crucible. With that being said, SBMM ruins crucible at the top level. These are the players that spend a lot of time there and the way it works is, if you want to have a chance you have to go with a full team. Queue times take over 5 mins and there is extreme lag (literally). Destiny is a very easy shooter, aim assist values are very high and there are many easy ways to "cheese" players, the skillgap in this game isn't how well you can hit your shots, it's actually ability usage and movement. The issue with SBMM before is that it didn't let any of the top players have somewhere where it didn't feel like it was an MLG tournament with horrendous lag. Also it's important to note that those lower skilled players probably barely play PvP and to balance it around them would be stupid. Also if you really are a 1.2 kd (not 1.2 efficiency, a lot of people get that mixed) you are quite above average as the average KD for destiny 2 last time I checked was a 0.76, so realistically speaking most of the people you play against WILL be worse, but then again with SBMM stats are inflated either lower or higher. I averaged a 1.8kd before and now I average a 4kd. With all this being said, I fully think QP should have 0 SBMM, the chances of someone of your caliber matching me are insanely ridiculous so it shouldn't be an issue. If you want a competitive experience the playlist literally exists for that. BUT QP should have these changes: • Groups play vs groups (4 stack v 4 stack) • A system where there is SBMM for very low players (below .5kd and they don't match 2kd+) • A system where new players don't play versus highly experieced, with D2 being the game for psn+, a level 2 should not be with me nor against me. It's important to note, numbers since the removal of SBMM have nearly doubled, this happened before SoH even came out and it's stayed pretty close throughout the whole month. Also it's important to note that everything else has SBMM (rumble and the weekly playlist). There are literally more playlists with SBMM than without.

If you only ever play against people of your skill level then you'll never get better. Without sbmm you will sometimes match against people that are terrible, and you will sometimes match against the best players in the game. Sure that one match when you're playing against 50x flawless opponents might suck, but you could at least try to learn from it by watching how the opposing team plays. Then the next match you'll probably end up playing against significantly worse players that you could do good against.

no dedicated servers, low player base, mediocre game.

Look man. We both know those top 1% PvP dick wads don't want to actually try. They just want easy matches, and until me and you get 500k viewers on twitch Bungie doesn't care.

What if I told you there are people with 1.0kd over 100 flawlesses?

You realise that the average KD is 1 right? And that by having a 1.2 KD you are in fact a slightly above average player. What are you moaning about again?

Here is a quick flow diagram in case you are feeling that you want to reply "get gud" : Can you spell "good"? If no then, please get better at spelling. Are you old enough to have a job? If no then, for god's sake I am old enough to be your grandad, what the hell are you doing arguing on the internet with me? Do you have a job that has pay rises every year? If no, then "get gud" When they decide on your pay rise, is this based on your performance? If no, then "get gud" Is your performance rated at a national/global level against all similar employees? If no, congratulations you are experiencing SBMM.