It was...until it committed seppuku. The developers' method of fixing rampant glitches via player punishment, and the eventual realization that Massive really didn't have an end-game, or post-launch strategy aside from being behind the curve is what eventually killed The Division.

Division killed itself. anyone seen a Hoodie bullet sponge

I'd have tried it if it was first person, destiny is the only thing that will kill destiny.

Division is boring now... The incursion is a joke.. Practically impossible with randoms on hard mode and challenge is impossible with randoms. You need people you know... And I'm not willing to put the time in. I'm glad i glitched lots of my gear the first week it was out. I find my self going back to destiny and still bored. I don't raid at all now and have gotten 335.. Without the raid. Thanks to 30C

Destiny 2 will kill Destiny.

The Division is garbage Destiny for PVP(PVE is old and stale) The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 for PVE

I remember waking up in a tub of ice. And Deej was buying emotes with my debit card.

Yeah it really did crash and burn but you better believe that those same folks making the so and so game will kill Destiny posts will be back at it again with the next series of games releasing in the fall.

Patch 1.1 is no different than the Dark Below.... the changes to the game and frustration of that caused people to leave. But at least The Division so far has been free. While empty, The Division had potential before they rolled out the 1.1 update. Similar to how Destiny had potential as an empty shell of a game that we bought for $60. Vanilla Destiny had 1 raid, had 6 strikes..... but repetitive daily missions, repetitive nightfalls (basically the strikes again), weekly heroic strike and a weekly lockout on gear. Then when TDB came out, it changed our old gear to be "useless" (remember people wanting the Fatebringer to come back?), made an artificially difficult raid by having level 33 enemies in the hard raid when we were level 32, had an end game exploit (pulling the cord on Crota), had an overpowered PvP gun (Thorn) and needed to alter the landscape of shotguns and heavy ammo dropping in PvP. The Division has very similar issues, except they have far more bugs. They have far more perks that are broken (although how many people remember Hammer Forged on Felwinter?). They have an exploit for endgame, and they have people stacking up on gear for the Dark Zone to make them incredibly powerful. These are all things Destiny went through with the TDB... and we PAID for that! Personally, I played The Division, had fun in the first month.... but the 1.1 update with gear scores and never ending grind for equipment made me lose interest. Same way people stopped playing TDB when it released never came back to Destiny. YET, Destiny fixed their issues. And The Division will most likely fix their issues. It needs and overhaul, and if it they improve the game, people will go back.

LOL I know that. And I told everyone of them, you will be back. Go enjoy division, I will too but maybe for a week or so.

The only thing that will kill Destiny for me is if they make PGR5 then I will leave Destiny for a while

In my eyes, the Division and Destiny are exactly the same. Both were two games that had a great concept and tons of potential. I'm equally disappointed with both, but I'll still say I dropped the Division faster than I did Destiny. In the end though, at least I could get back into Destiny.

Nope.

Not surprised, although I check this morning Uncharted 4 is almost at 700,000 preorders... I thought that was a pretty big feat! The top seller this year thus far is Ratchet and Clank with almost 400,000 total. Uncharted already beat that by a long shot! Not saying it will smoke destiny but I think more people will at least have a second game to play.

Don't worry, SBMM is doing a good job at killing Destiny.

Can't blame people for falling to marketing nonsense. Do you remember Destiny's "playable terrain", "epic story" and "living world with weekly events"?