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Edited by Nightcore Loli:
2/23/2016 2:19:24 AM
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THE DOCTRINE OF PASSING NEEDS NERF ASAP >:(
"THE DOCTRINE OF PASSING", It's this weapon that is unbalanced and it is also the most used weapon. The Doctrine of Passing literally over powers all other weapons in the short to mid range category.
The "no skill" policy that most gamers no and hate is where this weapon glows in glory. It is over used to the extent that if bungie ran the numbers of all players who have a Doctrine at least got it they can see there is a mighty percentage of people using such weapon. I am really surprised that bungie isn't aware that this is the weapon that most destiny PvP players use. I do not understand how Gjallarhorn in it's hay day gets a nerf in PvE but weapons in the PvP category that are over used don't.
It is easy to assume that gamers are against the Doctrine nerf. You might ask yourself why nerf it? Well that is easy guardian, in some occasions we need a balance that both the auto rifles and hand cannons meet. Now remember the Doctrine is a legendary weapon now if it out guns legendary hand cannons that should at some occasions in gun fights beat the Doctrine than there is a problem. There needs to be balance and the Doctrine needs a nerf because really it is the only auto rifle people feel comfortable and know they can out gun just about any short range weapon.
It should be us gamers to play with other weapons not have to rely on one weapon, we can choose so many weapons but no one wants to because of how underpower they can be. So hopefully Bungie gets there lazy buttocks of there computer chair look into a mirror and say hey you know it's time to nerf the Doctrine of Passing.
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Your ability to access feedbacks needs a nerf lol.
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Try not running blindly into CQC situations lmao awareness is the difference between good players and great players. It's really good in FR range, big whoop half the maps are more than wide enough to accommodate scouts pulses and low ROF autos. Suros eats them up, and so does hardlight. I used atheon's epilogue to get a feel for what people saw in the guns and the range is just too low for it to be unbeatable, same with the high RoF hakke auto, they're good but the range separates them from the truly op metas of the past.
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4 RepliesChill with all these Damn nerfs threads guys... You're constantly running the game. Soon we'll be fighting with just emotes. This game sure is going down the tubes.
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Take the necrochasm in regular PvP and it has the same stats as the doctrine. The doctrine kicks ass and I love that auto rifle, but I do get my ass kicked a lot more by the last word users. When that happens I take my grasp of malick with head seeker out. Ya just gotta Learn how to adopt when going up against any weapon of the game.
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Pretty sure doctrine isn't even an issue lol
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You have a frickin fantastic Grasp of Malok Jealousy!
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Awwww someone can't get 7 wins in trials.
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Stop crying and use one yourself, geeez!
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Take your elitist attitude and shove it up your aśs
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1 Reply[quote]Nothing. By design. Bungie has even said as much. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/13147]Multiple times, as in the 2.0 patch notes from last July[/url]: [quote][b]The Last Word[/b] The Last Word is our fastest time-to-kill (TTK) primary in the game. The intent of this weapon was always to deal lethal damage up close and in style while shooting from the hip. Right now the Stability and Range of this weapon has players reliably getting ranged kills while aiming down sights, so we want to try and push this weapon into more of its intended role. [i]Changes[/i]: - Reduce Range stat to 10 (was 20), reduce Stability to 20 (was 30). - Reduce effective range while in ADS. - Increase accuracy and precision damage aim assist scale when firing from the hip. “Get three coffins ready.” - Fixed bugs with Hipfire damage bonus applying incorrectly [/quote] TLW is unbeatable by any other primary in the hands of a skilled user at engagement distances of 10-25' or less. It has enough ammo to kill 2-3 people in close proximity before you need to reload. Reload is hella slow, though, which a skilled player [b][i]can[/i][/b] capitalize on. The only people that have real problems with this gun are the people that refuse to accept that someone that is good with it should not be challenged CQB unless you are using a TLW as well [b][i][u]and[/u][/i][/b] can get the first shot off. I dream of the day where people actually read Bungie patch notes and actually understand when something is done on purpose.[/quote]
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1 ReplyPeople use doctrine because its good at close range, its the only close range primary able to counter a last word. Is it balanced? I think so.. It a great auto earned from going flawless in trials or simply getting a certain amount of wins to get the weaker version. Its a great gun, it has a huge falloff damage once it reaches mid range so any other gun can easily bring it down. Its an auto rifle, able to maintain fire at its supposed "intended range".. The gun is also good under the right hands, lot of people suck using it. Ive used hard light or suros and still easily beat people with doctrine at medium range. I feel doctrine should be around and strong until the last word gets nerfed or tweaked. Im tired of all the clutches people pull with a gun that 2 shots from the hip and is able to fire really fast in case you missed those 2 shots. Doctrine is not Op but used mostly because its a great counter to last word and no other auto is as good as doctrine.
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Hey, at least is not only mida/last word anymore.
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You can't nerf doctrine unless you need all auto rifles remember
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Ive also had hard lights wreck me before i bring them half with doctrine.
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I'm just happy there is finally a counter to the last word because last word is everything you described
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Stop crying nerf! Damn... Just play the stupid game. Destiny is not going to be relevant for much longer anyways.
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Says the person running TLW, Grasp of Malok, and Z-Bane... Could there be a motivation here? Perhaps don't like the competition that operates in your wheelhouse? Sorry, just had my fill of Nerfs.
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8 RepliesEdited by tupanch: 2/22/2016 2:42:10 PMI find it funny that if someone mentions TLW needs a nerf, people flip their shit telling them to "get gud skrub". But yet, when someone says doctrine is OP, people dont bate an eye. Guess what? Doctrine still takes more skill then TLW does, at least with doctrine you have to manage the recoil. Doctrine isnt just a straight laser beam with its recoil
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The doctrine may need a slight nerf, but the only reason it feels so OP right now is because every other gun that should be able to challenge it has already been nerfed to uselessness.
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Buff other weapons
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15 RepliesBump!! The thing kills you at a ridiculous range given the range on it it shouldn't be able to. I agree that not even HC's can compete with it because of its high RoF. Definitely needs to be tone down.
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Or how about you go get one stop whining and no NERF
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1 ReplyThey definitely need to look at damage falloff on Doctrine of Passing. I get the fast ttk at close range but it extends out into pulse rifle and hand cannon territory.
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1 ReplyLeave it alone. If you've earned it, you deserve it.
