Search up Titan skating and learn that Titans have the games best jump maybe you could argue blink so it's the second best. The melee sucks. I agree with that . The super is the best in the game. The nades are the best sticks grenade, and the incineary nade is top teir as it can one shot. Sorry bout me speling

My only issue with some Sunbreaker Titans is that the Super greatly disguises and distorts how good the player is at PvP. I don't PvP/IB much (and I'm not very good) but I've gone up in IB/Crucible against way too many bottom tier PvP Sunbreakers that still come out on top in matches. When facing off with a gun/weapons against them, I have no problem getting the best of them...but will finish below them because of Hammer Time. I've seen so many that can't shoot or aim or use decent strategy in Crucible...and it shows. They will be in last or next to last during the match-- until that Super charges. Then they are catapulted to the top of the ranks. After the Fire Fades they drop down and struggle again...until that Super charges again and BOOM they are back at the top, reigning supreme. For the most part, the other 2 classes can't 'reverse a bad players fortunes' that regularly and to that degree. Sure the Supers help a Hunter and Warlock 'get back on track', so to speak. And any Super will help a mediocre player even out the K/D a bit. I don't have anything against Sunbreakers in general, though. There are a great many that are supremely skilled with the gun and in Crucible and have certainly wrecked my limited Crucible play (without their Hammers). But for any specific Super to turn a not-so-good player into a consistently top-of-the-leaderboards player, seems....a bit off. I think you should play whichever class brings you the most fun and it's not a players fault that they are merely using what the game gave them. But when some bad PvP'ers (well, in regards to shooting) are consistently winning match after match-- possibly something needs to at least be looked into. And when I say bad, I mean players that struggle mightily with handling a weapon and only rack up kills with their Supers. But in all fairness, the object is to win. So you can't really be mad when someone uses the tools giving them, to do just that. And yes, I'm a pretty bad PvP'er, but I still have fun when I give it a go.

Hmmm , You have a 1.15 K/D overall Proof http://destinytracker.com/destiny/player/ps/tipple22 Your Hunter K/D 1.25 last seven days 1.40 Your Warlock K/D 1.11 last seven Days 1.10 Your Titan K/D 1.11 - [b]last seven days 1.90[/b] The [b]FACT[/b] is that You are defending Your Sunbreaker Titan because it is the only character that allows You to maintain a K/D that is acceptable. The fact that Your K/D on Your titan is almost twice that of your other characters illustrates two points perfectly ... [b]1. The Titan super is OP ( If it wasn't then Your K/D on Your Titan would be in line with Your other characters ) 2. You are using Your Titan as a crutch to improve Your game and it's working , This is the reason You are so vigorously defending the class.[/b] I have seen you defending Sunbreaker on multiple posts today - this one and at least one other here https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/172435962/0/0 The fact is - Sunbreaker is currently OP , and its going to get a nerf whether You like it or not. I'm all for playing within the games meta to be the best player You can be in PvP , But the fact is that a 55% damage reduction combined with 8 seeking AOE hammers that can optionally give health regeneration is overpowered. Just to be clear - I am not beating on You for Your K/D at all , I don't care about numbers and there are a hell of a lot of players with a lower K/D than mine that are far better players in reality , the only reason I used Your K/D as an example was to illustrate the point that Your K/D was significantly higher on Your Titan since the new subclass launched. [b]TLDR[/b] The reason Sunbreaker super is overpowered is 55% damage reduction Up to 8 'Player seeking' 1 shot hammers Ranged attack Area of effect (DOT) Regenerating health ( With 55% damage reduction ) on a kill Cannot be one shot like all other supers. [b]The fact that the super lasts long enough for a player to be killed by a hammer spawn back in and then get killed again by the same super.[/b] The fact OP's K/D has effectively doubled on a consistent basis since using Sunbreaker illustrates my point perfectly. Sun breaker WILL be nerfed in the next balancing patch.

Sunbreakers need a buff imo.

Once again just remove supers from pvp so everyone can shut the -blam!- up, this game would be so much fun if every post damn there wasn't someone complaining, and or bitching I've been playing video games for 15 plus years and never seen so many cry babies, If you don't like the perks and supers and or guns go play princess barbie fun house and stfu.

[quote]I could kill a airborne titan blindfolded[/quote]Pics or it didn't happen.

If they dont activate the super right in front of you then its not a problem to run. The super is very op. Its an AOE golden gun with tracking that can heal you, you can throw hammers as soon as you activate, the range is freaking nuts and to get several shots. With golden gun you cant fire and youre vulnerable until the activation is complete. The other day i picked up heavy and met a Titan in a hallway. He poped his hammer at the same time i fired my rocket. My rocket, which hit him directly, took him to half health (he didnt have a shield or anything) and he killed me. Thats insane. Any other class get ,basically, invincibility on super activation?

Lol nope: -fusion nades -melee that does dot or regens health -Titan skate -Super with WAY too much damage resistance Arguably one of the best PvP subclasses in the game.

Titans can skate incendiary grenade is a death sentence fusion grenade is the best sticky the burn melee is capable of a ohko and the super... *Cringe* Don't even try to defend it man...

you didn't miss anything. a large majority of complaints are by class spammers who don't even have a titan or play one to know what is actually going on