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Edited by Star Gazer2:
11/5/2015 12:39:28 AM
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"Black Spindle is terrible for the raid."
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I love my spindle melts war priest and golgaroth. Just requires a little more aiming on war priest which isn't hard really I usually get 15 shots off on him every time as a minimum....... loads of damage love it!
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*facepalm*
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These comments made me think: For Warpriest Would 1000-Yard Stare with Triple Tap, Casket Mag & Spray and Play -perks + Sleeper Simulant or Defiance of Yasmin with Cocoon perk + Sleeper Simulant outdamage Black Spindle? If you have Raid gloves that reloads faster inside the aura + reloads fusion rifles / sniper rifles (for 1000-Yard) wouldn't you deal more damage compared to Black Spindle with a legendary heavy weapon? Keep in mind you can have 7 to 12 shots for the Sleeper Simulant. Shoot 4 shots with Yasmin, switch to Sleeper, shoot 3 times & reload, switch to Yasmin & shoot 4 times, switch to Sleeper, shoot 3 times & reload and so on. According to VanguardGames at [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3o90v5/touch_of_malice_vs_black_spindle_vs_sleeper/t]reddit[/url] it takes 4 seconds to empty the Sleeper Simulant clip + 1.4 seconds to reload (without aura + fusion reload perks) so (4s x 4) + (1.4s x 3) = 16s + 4,2s = 20,2s to empty all 12 shots. So basically you have around 19,8s left to shoot if you're using 1000-yard stare (18-24 shots + more if you have triple tap). I haven't tested the damage to Warpriest but the damage on Draksis (Ultra) would be 15,396 x 12 = 184,752 with a 308 Sleeper Simulant. Black Spindle takes 2 seconds to empty the magazine. If you have 24 shots, it takes 16 seconds to shoot all 24 shots if they're critical shots so it potentially leaves 24 seconds left to use your heavy or primary weapon. On Draksis the damage would be 8,510 x 24 = 204,240 with a 310 Black Spindle [b]So in the end, you deal 19,488 more damage (Draksis) and have 24 seconds left to deal damage to Warpriest compared to 19,8 seconds when using Sleeper Simulant. But then it comes to the heavy/primary weapons. With that 24 seconds, can you deal more damage with your heavy/primary weapons than a 1000-Yard Stare / Defiance of Yasmin deals in 19,8 seconds?[/b] If anyone could test (and calculate) the damage on Warpriest with a 1000-yard Stare (possibly with those perks mentioned in the beginning) + Sleeper Simulant (possibly with Fusion Rifles reload faster and/or reload faster in Aura -perk Raid gloves) and compare the damage to Black Spindle + any heavy/primary legendary weapon that deals a lot of damage, please let me know what the outcome is!
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Warpriest and Golgoroth. Thats were we only use it. Daughters and Oryx = Touch of Malice.
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I'm usually the buff holder on WP, and lately the Gaze holder in Googleroth, so I don't get to use my spindle much anymore.
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2 RepliesSpindle takes up an exotic slot and just runs through ammo... Would much rather use TYS with triple tap
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ToM is better in every part of the raid save Golgoroth.
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Sure, but when I'm doing the most damage in the group because of it, you can keep complaining lol
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Tbh the only time I'll use it if the boss's hotshot is -blam!-ing huge, like golgroth and sepkis prime. Warpreist's head is to small and bounces too much, and ToM is just OP on daughters and oryx
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Then they were a special kind of stupid.
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2 RepliesI'm not fond of using it on the war priest honestly. His head bounces around a lot it's annoying.
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8 RepliesCough cough highest impact sniper in taken king
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1 ReplyEdited by o Primal Dead o: 11/5/2015 8:55:35 PMI actually like spindle only for Golgoroth. I feel TYS is better for warpriest but maybe that is because I'm not proficient with spindle on that fight, yet.
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3 RepliesEdited by ferial56: 11/5/2015 9:53:52 PMEh. I like my Hakke sniper better anyway. -[i]the guy with no house.[/i]
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Edited by Buckle: 11/5/2015 9:49:40 PM*facepalm squared*
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13 RepliesI just got my Spindle this week. The odd thing is that the last time I ran a hard mode and wiped at the Warpriest I was a 303 light using a 298 Eirene and was doing more damage than all of the Spindle users in the group. The highest light guy even pointed out that the lowest light guy (me) was somehow doing the most damage.
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10 RepliesEdited by samwenchester: 11/5/2015 8:32:40 PM9 shots from sleeper then the rest of the time dps with 1000 yard stare, that will out dps the black spindle by around 100k at the warpriest. In a single round
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Your "raid group" is obviously not a raid group then. Or they said it cause they don't have it
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3 RepliesWho cares? My characters have a Stillpiercer, an Eirene with luck in the chamber, and a 1000 yard stare. Probably getting a 2nd 1000 to replace the Stillpiercer eventually. Warpriest and Golg die all the same.
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6 RepliesEdited by SlushyApollo48: 11/5/2015 8:17:27 PMIf I land all my critical hits I can do half the damage to golgoroth but if I miss then the black spindle becomes an exotice piece of crap
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Mine does almosk 30k damage on War Priest and Golgoroth but have someone explain to me again why it sucks lol.
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A well perked high impact sniper can be comparable and free up an exotic... I use 1000yd stare... But its never going to be 'better than spindle.'
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9 RepliesSpindle is a good option but 1000 yard stare with triple tap is better unless the time period to do damage is less than the time period it take to exhaust all of your special ammo. This is especially true if using a WoL ward of dawn as you either will lose the advantage of no reload by stopping to step in and out or lose the advantage of WoL as you continue to fire without it. The only scenario where BS is clearly better is during Golgoroth using 1 orb or you're just not hitting your crits with the 1000-yard (people tend to be more careful to land the crits with BS b/c the no reload perk).
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I have ran with a team full of spindles 310+. Mine is 318 and a full team of sleepers 310+ mine 312. And I always burn him fast but the time my team can burn him in 2 turns on hard is with the spindle. That's all the proof I need
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2 Replies"Terrible" is a bit of a stretch, but ToM or Sleeper is usually betteruse of an exotic slot imo, with 1000 yd as a sniper.
