I don't know about you lads, but I've been combing the Armory for what's available and I'm just dying to get my hands on these weapons, all Hakke of course (No Omolonomonomsense here). https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=3883201938&itemname=Judith-D Judith-D HandC, max Impact 7 round mag, standard fair. What's different about this one is it has just about the highest base Range and Stability stats for a HandC of this archetype and its first perk options include Zen Moment, Reactive Reload, Final Round, and Rangefinder, but outside of those four the other four are Reload increasing perks and two of those either do or provide the potential for two-crits in PvP (Final Round and RR). In the second perk reel the only limited use perks are Danger Close and Surrounded. All the rest go from Relentless Tracker and Crowd Control to offsetting the low base magsize or the HandC Accuracy nerf, what's not to love?! Oh, and the last column is all good. Save for Reinforced Barrel and Smallbore (assuming you don't have an Outlaw/Feeding Frenzy build) https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=3275294462&itemname=Arminius-D The Arminius-D, now, I know max RoF ARs aren't hugely popular. But I do my math, and thanks to how the AR nerf in 1.1.1 worked max RoF ARs actually have the fastest TTKs of their class in PvP as you can see below. They're also all kinds of fun to shoot once you get a hang of the recoil. ^-^ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L7FV9l4hXo2tHD3XlFUp854XvJIwTKFIPvASLduPPS4/htmlview?sle=true https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?type=item&item=4185761115&itemname=Strongbow-D Unlike the Jingukogo, the Strongbow has 5 shells in the mag. Only sacrifice is two points in Range and a couple points in reload speed. Oh, and the Strongbow looks a little more... brutal.