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Edited by irishfreak:
3/12/2026 1:09:34 PM
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Would Marathon be more popular with a happy D2 player base?
As the title says.
I kind of like the look of marathon. I enjoy both PvE and PvP and may have played if I didn’t have such a bad taste about how Bungie used monetisation and false marketing to extract all they could from their loyal players.
I’m not here hoping any game fails or people lose jobs but I feel like they have brought this on themselves.
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I don't see why it wouldn't
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1 ReplyI think it’d be more popular with a PvE only mode.
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Absolutely, a portion of the reason this game lost players was because of them claiming marathon wouldnt affect destiny 2 and then they pushed back our content to avoid releasing in the same time frame. Little did they know, if they had just done it as planned, we would have grinded our weekly D2 stuff and filled our time with marathon. But now we have to show them that we wont put up with the choices they made. This is on the devs themselves.
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1 ReplyEdited by Grim Thimble: 3/12/2026 6:32:26 PMHonestly doubt it. As a PVE player and really into story arcs and such, I’m not sure an exfil scenario does it for me or for a lot of folks. While I’m not as involved time- and money-wise as I once was, I don’t hate Destiny, and I don’t want to see it fail. Conversely, while not my thing, I don’t want Marathon to tank either, although I find it a misstep. I find everything leading up to this scenario between a budding game and a waning one as tone deaf. I’m not much interested in epically difficult gaming any more and I’m certainly not gonna watch people play games as entertainment. And no, I’m not afraid of dungeons or raids or master endeavors and sometimes participate gladly, but mostly I’m just a casual with money to spend on time spent relaxing. That said, the FREE bits are still fun and I did recently pay a few dollars to play again - not much but enough for fun. Anyway, it’s been 10 years and maybe time spent on other interests is warranted. MAKE ME REALLY CARE AGAIN BUNGIE… my wallet is ready. Edited for spelling
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2 RepliesEdited by Speaker: 3/12/2026 9:32:07 PMI mean, I think if Bungie had the power to do both they could have managed to at least salvage the situation they are in, that being their new game might not be allowed to stay around, it's darn shame because I think Marathon is actually pretty solid for gameplay, but I think they're not going to be able to justify continued live service. I hope the player base increases but you're just not going to see a Helldivers 2 miracle here, Bungie unfortunately cultivated enough bad press that it hurt them and fewer people are willing to trust the brand. Rumors have it they gave out some random copies during the server slam. But if I'm being perfectly honest there was very little that would have satisfied the Destiny 2 community. Conversely, those few things may just have been: Dedicated Servers (no more p2p) for which I will never understand why they never worked to make that happen- Bungie the company that makes Deals with devils to express themselves, couldn't manage that? I won't harp anymore, I'm just sad to still see the slow motion destruction of what started out as a wonderful community.
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eliteg👎👍🙏⚔️😴 - old
no doubt - I came back in November after hiatus bought up a bunch of D2 stuff - giving benefit of the doubt, being positive... then they went on "vacation/holiday-break" and never came back.... I couldn't support that obvious abandonment of me a paying customer just like that x1000s of others... evidenced by TWID/Updates/communication/delay... and more-so by the state of PVP especially after Jan update. (lack of attention to details lack of care) I see plenty to like in Marathon... I feel even without being a competitive beast I could find the fun in solo/rook even squad fill... fun stuff with proximity chat.. its not perfect and would benefit from other modes/worlds but I woulda dropped 40 easy no question... and been a Net Promoter... ...but can't get over the abandonment.. which then brings up all the past issues that one must accept to choose another bUNgie GAME... hmm #un-game Still hoping for a dramatic reversal in D2 care that will allow me to consider Marathon in the future... (if it goes well) -
If Marathon had gone out and not had Bungie's name attached; It would have been hailed as a critical success. Doing something new in the extraction shooter space. Which it is, but because it's Bungie, they have spent all their goodwill, will no self revives. FWIW I am loving Marathon. I didn't want to, or expect to, but played solo it is truly immersive. The lore and story is slowly revealed through contracts and finding things in the world. It is intriguing. I hope Sony can keep both games going. Corpo's are gonna Corpo though. Who knows?
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1 ReplyEdited by Dooodley: 3/14/2026 2:53:26 PM100 % because it would mean that their current fans still had trust in the company and were more willing to try out their new project and we wouldnt have the stigma that is portrayed in online news sources. But even then i think there'd be a pretty low ceiling on how successful a fairly competitive extraction shooter like marathon could be. It's simply not for everyone and I'll never understand why they thought that the combination of genre and direction - direction is important because arc raiders have shown that it can be done - would be more profitable than the options.
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"....a happy 'D2' player base...." That's a hilarious premise just reading it.
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2 RepliesMarathon gives me that rush feeling of The Iron Banner with the high stakes of Gambit. At first, the idea of an Extraction Shooter did not seem appealing but as I kept on playing I understood the nature of the game. It's a Game Of Chance: Win or Lose/Live or Die. Back in the day of The Iron Banner before EOF, I was grinding the two Resets just for the prized Shader; even at the expensive of getting clobbered. Overtime, I got used to the maps and improved my gunplay. That experience was brought over to Marathon. I'm mostly a PVE player. I try to avoid PVP, especially in Crucible and Trials. Iron Banner I love. My PVP days peaked around Halo Reach and Halo 4. Marathon has given me the blend of both PVE and PVP. In addition, I love the aesthetics, the Map with various areas of interest, the Lore, the puzzles, and the looming mystery of the unexpected.
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3 RepliesThey released a harder, competitive game on a crowed segment, that requires time commitment to enjoy fully. I don’t see how numbers could just climb suddenly unless they drastically change the approach. Here’s how I see the Marathon situation, the longer you wait to jump in and the less you play, the more you’ll fall behind players who invested time and have better gear than you. I love the look of Marathon I’d like to play it, but because it’s f the way it was designed I know I won’t enjoy it. D2 having PvE did not have that constant competitive element, you could enjoy it at your own pace, not Marathon.
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I think so, speaking for myself, Bungie burned through the good will I had for the company. After experiencing first hand how it treats its customers, I had no interest in buying another product from the organization.
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IMO, the root of the problem was the mismanagement/overambition that stretched teams too thin across multiple projects (which the previous CEO admitted to). Bungie tried to expand too quickly and everything has suffered in the process. Had they done it more cautiously, there’s every chance that Destiny and Marathon would be doing better right now. Yep, Bungie tries to milk their players dry, but it’s really up to you what you choose to purchase and engage with. Personally, I would happily buy Marathon if it was my type of game. I’ve enjoyed Destiny over the years, so why not. Sadly, it’s not my cup of tea, but I hope it does well.
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Personally, I never had an interest in Marathon even before Destiny hit this point. I'm just not a fan of PvP heavy focused games. It's why I never got into stuff like COD or Overwatch. I'm not saying having PvP options is a bad thing, but sometimes you just want to take it easy and not sweat it out all the time.
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If its good, people are gonna play it regardless. Im not a fan of extraction shooters but I wont lie and say I’m glad marathon is doing ok. I personally want it to fail because bungie threw destiny under the gutter in hopes of making marathon work. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Destiny is a well loved franchise with an unlimited potential. Bungie could easily make destiny the very best game if they really wanted to. Destiny has survived a whole decade now, not many games can say they have run for so long apart from the mmorpg’s and the hero shooters like overwatch. Destiny is one of those games where you truly feel powerful and you truly get to experience powers. Sometimes you can feel like a superhero or you can be a total villain if you play aggressively without a care in the world. Seeing bungie throw something like this away just annoys me. At this point the only thing that can save destiny is bungie. Clearly it seems they have no intentions seeing as they even delayed the next destiny expansion because they wanted to focus on marathon.
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1 ReplyYes. It is simple marketing, brand association and brand loyalty. If D2 was in a good spot and players had a sense that Bungie was doing a good job with D2. Many would likely try Bungie’s other offerings. For example, I stayed at a luxury resort in a foreign country three years ago. I enjoyed the property, food and service. (When the hair dryer in the bathroom is a Dyson, you know you’re going to be taken care of.) Subsequently, I went and stayed at 5 of the initial resort’s sister properties because of how incredible the first property was. If Bungie had any awareness, it would’ve realized that if it did incredibly well with D2. The goodwill that it created would have had a “halo” effect (no pun intended) that would have benefited Marathon. Instead, Marathon now has to overcome the ill will generated by Bungie’s missteps with D2.
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2 RepliesDon’t think so. If a game is good it’s good, negative press notwithstanding. Our toxic forum trolls certainly aren’t helping with their “marathon bad - bungie die” mentality. Generally though, a demo will allow people to make up their own minds. In this case a sizeable chunk of players who tried the slam said “nope, not for me”
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5 RepliesNi it wouldn't. Marathon don't get me wrong looks great gun play and all that but if you are not above average at pvp and running with stacked friends you will not have a great time.
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2 RepliesIf the D2 player base was happier, and the game itself was in a much MUCH better spot both in terms of PvE AND PvP…..I feel that many more players who play Destiny would have at LEAST have played during the server slam. Wether or not Marathon would get more sales is a different debate, but it is possible that with a far more positive and happier Destiny community, that Marathon would have been received with more…..shall we say optimistic opinions than flat rejection? Personally my stance wouldnt have changed. I really dont like extraction looters. They move along too slowly and once the sweaty players learn all the extraction points of a map, getting out with anything decent becomes neigh impossible.
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Yes it would. It still would be nivhe. But not hated by the community. A ton of d2 players truly hate bungie at that point, so we didnt bothered trying to support bungie by giving a chance to their new game. Whats the point anyways ? If we jump on marathon and like it they will ruin it like they did with d2 lmao.
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1 ReplyOf course it would. They ruined their reputation with how they handled d2. They've been known to do a terrible job with pvp balancing and take months to address obvious issues. Why would anyone expect otherwise from them on marathon? Not to mention they took a big dump on everyone playing d2 that funded marathon and made it so I would never remotely consider buying another one of their games. If they didn't abandon d2 and actually took care of the players here then I would have given marathon a try and it could be something to play during down time on d2.
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2 RepliesNo. Destiny playerbase barely moved when marathon launched. The general gaming population seem split. Whilst yes steam & psn reviews are 90%, both have the appearance of shenanigans & require a purchase to leave a review, they both also have this weird thing holding them at 90%, as soon as it drops below you see a big chunk of positives hauling it back to 90%. Analysts have recently discovered companies spending marketing on ai review bots who create gaming profiles, buy copies & leave reviews. Some even create human profiles, who have linkedins, with pictures etc & arent real people, so I'm very very wary. Sites like metacritic match the server slam & show it -blam!-.5/10, seems more realistic. Player numbers are also very low, suggesting the gaming audience in general don't vibe with this game.
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1 ReplyTBH, I didn't think I'd like it, in fact a lot of my posts have been up and down regarding Marathon, however it does have that Bungie addictive ingredient. I can't stop playing the bloody thing, even if I am a bit crap at it. I would have preferred a D3, I have over 6k hours in D2, but I'm just trying to enjoy what they've put out. I hope Marathon succeeds and I hope that revenue is put into Destiny...but there's no denying, Bungie have treated the Destiny community VERY badly.
