Ah, I miss the D1 scatter grenade, the one that had a massive explosion and range and sounded like shattered glass, now its a harmless jelly splatter.

Nothing Manacles, running the orb on Echo Chamber strike with grenadier modifier would give you a fully charged grenade in less than 1.5 seconds. There is nothing in D2 that comes close to that damage output.

LEAVE THE CORES ALONE. you built a game, player A does not want to play your game the way you made it but instead wants to play their own game their own way. Have player A play their own game instead. Problem Solved. Send that to your Design Team. Cozmo - did you design this game so that one must equip an item that is "1 light higher than what you have, you have to use it because otherwise you cant do endgame activities."??? I seriously doubt it. LEAVE CORES ALONE!!!!

You do realize that making games is a **business** ....and businesses need **customers**, right??

OP sounds like he does not understand that concept. His game his way. Guess that is why he purchased Bungie's product. Maybe he should try their game, the way Bungie intended it to be played. Or as I originally said he can play his game his way which I'm guessing he is not the designer of Destiny 2 - going out on a limb there.

Okay. I hire you to work for me. I agree to pay you $15/hr.. Only at the end of the week, I refuse to pay you. You've already done the work, but now I'm withholding the legitimate rewards you earned with that work. Think you'd complain....or just shrug your shoulders and say, "His place of business, his rules" ??

Sounds like my job I'm already at. Can you throw in a perk, like a bottle of water. Might consider a lateral job change.

How about just paying you for the work you done? But that's how this game feels right now. Bungie is asking us to grind in order to get all this cool loot...but we can't use most of it beause the infusion economy forces us to leave the vast majority of it behind. I can't remember the last time I played Ace of Spades. For the simple reason that I can't afford the cores to level it up as I progress.....and I dont' want to give up the power that equipping a primary weapon that is TWENTY power levels below my max would demand.

Yesterday I played my warlock, prior to BA, I had masterworked a full set of armor on her and on my Titan (master race). I had 4 of 5 pieces of armor that were 10 light levels above the 600 mark, it cost me 8 cores. OP is complaining because they do not understand economy. spending 2 cores to upgrade 1 light level is stupid, idiotic, moronic and a complete waste of cores. there is no, I REPEAT, NO, NONE WHAT SO EVER, benefit to upgrading a singular piece of equipment 1 light level at a time. the difference between completing the forge at 610 and 611 is negligible. Maybe you don't use your Ace for a couple days, but you get a 10-15 jump in light and Absolutely infuse it up so that you can use it again, until it is "so underpowered" that you need to use something else for a couple days and then infuse again. when you are deleting weapons you are not keeping are you not getting blue bounties - do they not give Cores as a reward - you have 3 days to complete them. Make Sure You Do.

Thank you for making my point. 1. The only way you manage to pull something like that off is that you basically have ONE loadout that you play with....and you use it EVERYWHERE. .I don't want to play that way. No other loot-game has ever required me to play that way. 2. As a PVE player I want to maintain several armor sets that are optimized for different play styles or game situations......builds. This system doesn't allow you to do that. Because you cannot get the cores from the game. For example. I would want to at least maintain one build of Dreaming City armor to take advantage of the damage buff that the DC mods give you. I would like to maintain a different armor set for Gambit. Where dark colors are an advantage in making yourself a more difficult target for invaders. Then there are sets you'd like to have simply because you get bored of looking the same every day. In Destiny 1, I WAS ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS. Because I could easily earn the glimmer and other materials I needed to maintain this gear with the 3 hours a day I typically played. But since Warmind...that is now IMPOSSIBLE. Not because I can't earn the glimmer, legendary shards and planetary mats necessary to do it. ITS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT GET THE ENHANCEMENT CORES NECESSARY FROM THE GAME NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PLAY. You can't because access to them is CAPPED to 6 per character per week...and we have EIGHT gear slots. Every core you get after that is either RNG----you have to be LUCKY enough to either get a core or a scrapper bounty from sharding gear-----OR you buy them at rates that would make a loan shark blush with embarrassment from Spider. Buying 6 cores from Spider in one 24 hour period will cost you SEVERAL HUNDRED legendary shards. A number that would take even a hardcore player a MONTH of daily play to earn back.... The whole system is designed to prevent ME----and most loot-based gamers----from playing the game the way we wish..... ...and for WHAT benefit to the game? NONE. Restricting cores doesn't stop people from levelling up. All it does is annoy the SHIT out of them, and prevent them from freely using the gear they already have. ...and a loot-based game that won't let you use the loot you've earned? BAD game design....and BAD business model.

I have 300 cores - what is your problem? Oh, you play once a week, I see. Sorry you are correct, my bad. I guess I had better use up those cores so that I can be with the In Crowd. and I used to run multiple sets - Strike/everyday set and Raid set - beyond that I didn't need or care to run anything else, why make it so complicated? Sure I could run 4 sets and have plenty of cores to master work all of them - and guess what - when I get a piece that is higher than the piece I already have IT COSTS NO CORES - why, I was in Gambit wearing Gambit Armor I got an increased Gambit Armor ONLY COSTS GLIMMER TO INFUSE. Thanks for making my point.

[quote]I have 300 cores - what is your problem?[/quote] 1. Because I'm USING my cores....and you aren't. 2. I did the math on another thread. In order to play this game like I did Destiny 1 and maintain four loadouts per character at my maximum power I would need nearly TWO HUNDRED CORES per WEEK from the game. ...and that's JUST to meet the infusion requirements of moving up about 10 power points per week. That STILL isn't enough of the damn things to even THINK about masterworking ANYTHING. 3. I don't play "once a week. I play between 2-4 hours A DAY....EVERY DAY. Not only can I easily meet all the other material requirements for infusion...I'm currently sitting on a stock pile of almost 7000 weapon parts right now. But he point is that the Core economy is so BROKEN...that you literally cannot extract the amount of cores I would need to support my preferred play style REGARDLESS of how much I played. I DEFY YOU. I DEFY YOU to tell me how you extract 200 cores PER week playing this game. Even "no-lifing" it....it cannot be done. 4. OH...and I already thought of duplicates. But that requires that you actually get a duplicate of something you already have to drop.....so it only costs you glimmer. Only with this game's Milestone's system....you may be WEEKS waiting for the higher power duplicate that you need to drop. #Two_Sidearms_and_a_Grenade_Launcher. The system IS BROKEN because it requires you to play in a fashion that the vast majority of loot-based RPG gamers DO NOT want to play. Which is why the community is practically unanimous in its opposition to this system. It basically DESTROYS player freedom in terms of how we equip ourselves and how we play the game. All for #Meaningful_Choices. Only they only have meaning to Bungie and not the players they are being forced upon.

Stock pile - if you have almost 7,000 weapons parts and I have 26,139 weapon parts what is my pile called? I don't mean to belittle you - but just so you know - I'm sitting on 14,027 legendary shards. and vault is holding 450 of 500 items (25 of which are 999 weapon parts) only because it was full at 500 and I deleted a bunch of stuff to make room, got down to 380 and then unloaded from what characters were holding onto. if anything needs to be changed it is the current system in which you can not repurchase from collections, new random rolled gear. There is just too much to have to hold onto. Forgot to add: you do know this is Not Destiny 1, correct? Wanting to play a game simply because it shares the same name and similar characters does not mean it is the same game and can be played in the same way. Maybe evolving the way in which you play a different game (Destiny 2) may easy the issue of not enough cores.

Read my LIPS: [i]So-The--blam!--What?[/i] Let me make something very clear here. I have about 5000 hours invested in this franchise. Which means I'm playing about a 1000 hours a year. Or about 3 hours a day....every single day. Which means I'm putting about 20 hours a week into this game...and even doing everything I can to extract as many cores from this game as possible....Cozmo's summary of our feedback is the current state of the game. There is no build diversity. There is no build freedom. People are being forced to use things that they don't like or are not appropriate to their playstyle because an aspect of the game that is freely accessible in EVERY OTHER SUCCESSFUL loot-based game is being locked behind a wall of the RAREST resource in the game. Because---if you had bothered to listen to your own rant---and the levels of resources you have hoarded. You've TWENTY-SIX THOUSAND weapon parts. You have FOURTEEN THOUSAND legendary shards....and another fourteen hundred in reserve, stored in your vault. ...and you have THREE HUNDRED Enhancement cores. You have enough mats to meet my needs for weapon parts and shards for the rest of the franchise.....and enough cores to meet my needs....[u]FOR A WEEK AND A HALF.[/u] THAT IS BOTH MY POINT....AND THE PROOF THAT THE SYSTEM IS UTTERLY BROKEN.

Read My Lips - This Is NOT Destiny 1. You have 1,300 hours on Destiny 2, I have 1,300 hours on Destiny 2. So I Ask and I dare you to answer - how is it, I have so many more weapons parts, legendary shards, masterwork cores than you do when we have the same amount of time invested in the game? Second I dare you to answer - How Is This Game INTENDED To Be Played by Bungie, not you, not OP, not me but by the developer? I additionally want your data "proving" that 200 cores per week is necessary and I will show the fundamental flaws in your thinking, assessment, and theory. Son, if you had any brains, you would find the most effective way to play this game as it is intended by the developer but instead you have a misguided ideal in which you want to rant on about and how you think this game should be played. Contrary to YOUR OPINION players are not forced into anything. Want the DLC, purchase it, don't want the DLC, don't purchase it, the game can be played either way. That is a choice. Want to use a particular gun, ok, don't want to use a particular gun, ok. Again Another Choice. You don't like the choice that is an opinion. Want to run this armor, fine, or that one, fine. Choice. As you said yourself, using a method of upgrading individual sets without cores will take weeks and plenty of RNG, but it is entirely possible - Choice. NOT FORCED. You want forced - you want no diversity - everyone gets Better Devils, Manannan, and Zenobia-D. Get your god roll from those weapons and only those weapons as only those weapons are possible in this game - every other weapons is removed from the game. That is Forced, That is NO Diversity. can't shoot a hand cannon - too bad don't like scouts and shooting from a distance - too bad blow your self up with enemies jumping in your face - too bad. Simply because you do not like the current choice in front of you does not mean Forced. I chose to not use my cores because I understood the value behind them. I chose to play with weapons and gear that I was not accustomed to, THAT IS THE INTENTION OF THE GAME AS IT IS DESIGNED. I have about 6-9 masterworked weapons that I use depending on the activity in which I am in, rolls that I liked and am able to play well with. When I am leveling up, I realize that I might not always be able to use them immediately but when a jump of 10 light levels comes up, sure as poop I'm going to be upgrading them. it costs 2 or 3 cores. you want to waste 2 cores for every 1 light level that is a Choice you make and why, I bet, you have the misguided idea that you need 200 cores per week. learn to be a better player.

I'm not reading all that. You have massive amounts of materials stockpiled because you AREN'T using them, and you aren't participating in the in-game economy in any meaningful way. ...and that fact that you've stockpiled enough of other materials to meet MY needs for YEARS....while even you can't even manage to hoard enough cores to meet my needs for two weeks makes MY point. Not yours. YOU may find playing the game that way to be satisfying.....but I DON"T and the vast majority fo the player base DOESN'T....and I DON"T care to have Bungie (or you for that matter) telling ME how I need to spend my leisure time playing this game. Bungie can try....but they are going to get smacked back into line by people simply quitting the game....and the loss of sales and revenue that go along with it. YOU can try...and I will tell you to mind your own business and worry about your own game. The core infusion economy adds NOTHING of value to the game. All it does is frustrate player choice and deny them the free use of the loot they've already earned. Which is how you destroy a loot-based game. YMMV. Enjoy your day.

This may be the only why to cater to both casuals and hardcores at the same time. But, would you guys rather have everyone bored because they have nothing else to do or chase? I mean I really enjoy the spider bounties.