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2/9/2017 2:38:07 PM
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Ace of Spades Buff

The Ace of Spades is an exotic weapon that has seen very little use in PvE and PvP like many other exotic weapons. Even though this weapon is fun to use and even sounds amazing, I feel that the exotic perk should be changed a bit in order to give it more potential and use. I have an idea on what Bungie could do to make this weapon better and you guys can voice your opinion about. This is what I had in mind: Maverick: Precision hits move one round from your ammo reserves into the magazine. Getting a precision kill increases this weapon's rate of fire, stability, and handling for a short time. (5 seconds.) I was thinking since the other two class exclusive exotic weapons, (Tlaloc, Fabian Strategy), have something to do with increased fire rate, stability, and handling, why not this weapon too? Now, whether the damage decreases or stays the same when the fire rate increases would be up for Bungie to decide. If you guys want to state your opinions about this, feel free to do so. Thanks.

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  • Change reinforced to rifled

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  • All it needs is to have reinforced changed to rifled

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  • Edited by Guardian Doshaguma: 2/11/2017 8:31:23 PM
    Change Reinforced Barrel to Rifled Barrel. Stability goes up, range remains standard, slows the reload; slower reload makes sense, as precision kills replace the round from your reserves.

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    • The new patch should make it land shots.

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    • It's rate of fire is perfectly fine. You can shoot rather fast with it as it is, the problem is hitting your targets.

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    • Really all it needs is a RoF buff imo.

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    • Ace of Spades and Fabian both need a buff. Ace needs something more going for the exotic perk. Fabian's perk needs to increase RoF and not decrease damage. Also, it needs to increase stability more. If these changes were made, it could be a great combo with a secondary sniper.

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      • Edited by Golden1_1Dragon: 2/12/2017 3:25:01 PM
        Give the ace of spades the extra perks outlaw and luck in the chamber. It will be an actual reason of why this gun will be used with this perk

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      • Edited by Falcochio1706: 2/11/2017 3:18:53 AM
        the ace of spades (card) is special among the other aces. So if you want it to be special and have a luck in the chamber kind of perk, I would probably change it to where there is a chance that landing a precision shot will refill the magazine and grant an enhanced tracker (because of third eye) until reload (once per magazine). It still follow the theme without being a game breaking change. however, It doesn't really need its exotic perk reworked in my opinion, what it does need is more ammo capacity. From what I remember, it was pretty poor, like round 65 shots.

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        • How about precision kills proc LITC and the more precision kills you get with its insane mag the more bullets in the next magazine that have LITC. So if you get two kills luck procs twice in the next clip and then you might get three kills with luck helping. You will just have to be very careful with your shots since you would want to get the most out of your mag every bullet will count so missing or landing bodies wouldn't be very beneficial.

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          • I think it need luck in the chamber because it's ace?

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            • The problem is your perk suggestion is too dramatic of a change. If I just address your 5 second idea, 5 seconds in the crucible is super long. Most TTK's are around .8 seconds.That's less than a second to kill someone. So combine that with your other suggestions it would be overkill IMO. Do you lose the 5 sec buff on death? Tlaloc has an offset to its perk where you have to sacrifice your super to gain that better handling, stability, etc. Fabian Strategy is situational, enemies have to be close. I understand your frustrations though. Super cool gun doesn't get much use. They did mention on their stream that they fixed HCRs everywhere else. So that includes hand cannons. Not sure how much of a difference it will actually make yet but maybe this change will help it get more use? Idk. Just my thoughts.

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              • Interesting modification with Maverick would have been to move a LitC round into your magazine on precision kill. Assume 3 shot kills with precision dealing the final damage you could potentially have a LitC round with 9, 6, and 3 rounds left in the mag. And allowing them to stack gives the small possibility of three LitC rounds with three rounds left in the mag. That's an ace in the sleeve.

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                • Sorry, but at Bungie we don't believe in these things you call "buffs." Instead of buffing the ace of spades we are going to nerf all the other class specifics. Oh, and even though you didn't ask, we are going to nerf something that nobody uses anymore because it irritates one of our devs. Thank you, and have a nice day.

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                  • Edited by burnsdg: 2/10/2017 3:30:58 PM
                    I'm not a big HC user, but seems to me changing the RoF back and forth so often would make the weapon really difficult to master, thus even fewer people would use it. The people I talk to that are good with HC's understand and execute the perfect pacing of their shots for minimum TTK, I can't see how making that switch itself up for a short time after a precision kill is gonna "improve" the weapon.

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                    • Although your idea is good this is what the first curse does soooo........

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                      • bruh.....i use ace of spades in pve all the damn time. its pretty damn good. firefly -blam!-s stuff in droves. the only improvement i would suggest for ace of spades is rifled barrel instead of reinforced barrel.

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                        • If it had rifled barrel instead of reinforced, I'd use it 24/7.

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                        • I'd be happy if they changed reinforced barrel to rifled barrel. Easy change, it won't be OP so people can't bitch....

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                        • I think I would rather have it where precision kills grant small boost (20% ) to melee and grenades or switch to a smaller boost (10%) to super energy,

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                        • Fire rate bonuses are useless on hand cannons, because of bloom.

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                        • Nice

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                        • True. It serves no real purpose. Third eye is ok. Firefly is nice. Maverick is a -blam!- you. I'd rather have triple tap than maverick. I wish it had rifled barrel instead of reinforced I wish the intrinsic perk was something more useful than Third Eye I wish it had faster handling Nonetheless, come patch day this gun will be great.

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