If your stance is “dang I have to find something new” I get that. I was salty about the YAS nerf. If you stance is “end game content is impossible without it” then you’re delusional.

[quote]If your stance is “dang I have to find something new” I get that. I was salty about the YAS nerf. If you stance is “end game content is impossible without it” then you’re delusional.[/quote] No my stance is "I don't want to have to raid report people I find on LFG just to get raids done because Bungie keeps increasing difficulty for these old activities for no reason other than day 1 raiders having difficulty fetishes. I want to play this cooperative video game with my friends. I do not want to slog through a vault of glass because idiots want it to be "harder". It's not hard, it'll never be hard. They can only make it more annoying to do.

[quote][quote]If your stance is “dang I have to find something new” I get that. I was salty about the YAS nerf. If you stance is “end game content is impossible without it” then you’re delusional.[/quote] No my stance is "I don't want to have to raid report people I find on LFG just to get raids done because Bungie keeps increasing difficulty for these old activities for no reason other than day 1 raiders having difficulty fetishes. I want to play this cooperative video game with my friends. I do not want to slog through a vault of glass because idiots want it to be "harder". It's not hard, it'll never be hard. They can only make it more annoying to do.[/quote] Just sounds like you’re a bad friend. Holding your friends hostage in a game that they don’t enjoy playing because you’re scared to LFG.

We are literally the strongest we’ve EVER been. Am I missing the part where VoG got harder? Or raids in general other than pantheon?

[quote]We are literally the strongest we’ve EVER been. Am I missing the part where VoG got harder? Or raids in general other than pantheon?[/quote] Actually yeah, you are. Master VoG used to be set to 20 light above hard cap but you could light level grind out of it for an easier clear with artifact levels. Most stuff was like that except GMs. Now everything is light locked, so it's actually more difficult than it used to be. Patrol zones, vanguard ops, and other smaller activities of no consequence are the same way. Everything is light locked, so nothing matters anymore, and you can never out level even basic things like patrol zones (on Neomuna at least).

Since when did the game need to hand hold you through every single activity. Why does everything NEED to be easy to complete and accessible to everyone. This preconceived notion that “because I bought the game I’m entitled to everything it offers with little to no effort” has absolutely RUINED gaming. Those that purchased explicitly a MMO LOOTER SHOOTER and are upset they have to put effort into obtaining certain gear, are the biggest fools I’ve ever seen. If you don’t want the game to be difficult, don’t play difficult activities.

[quote]Since when did the game need to hand hold you through every single activity. Why does everything NEED to be easy to complete and accessible to everyone. This preconceived notion that “because I bought the game I’m entitled to everything it offers with little to no effort” has absolutely RUINED gaming. Those that purchased explicitly a MMO LOOTER SHOOTER and are upset they have to put effort into obtaining certain gear, are the biggest fools I’ve ever seen. If you don’t want the game to be difficult, don’t play difficult activities.[/quote] See this isn't a binary thing. You seem to think that anything that isn't dark souls hard is "holding the player's hand" and it isn't. There's a middle ground where stuff starts hard and becomes easy with practice. That's what D2 used to be. This is an online multiplayer game that is still, to this day, being marketed as a game to play with friends. Except you really can't do that unless your friends are sweats too. Last I checked, Bungie sent the "try Pantheon" email to everybody, not just the try hards, and it's been WELL established that Pantheon isn't for everyone. So why was it marketed that way in a marketing email? Because Bungie thinks streamers know what players want. But they don't. It's not a question of handholding or effort. It's a question of whether or not it's fun, and putting forth dozens of hours of effort to build load outs that get nerfed every 4 months is not worth the effort, nor is it fun. Take your try hard nonsense and go home. Most D2 players don't agree with you

Never mentioned anything about DarkSouls difficulty. But I guess you can put words into my mouth. You have people whining about not being able to complete a 40 MINUTE mission with legend tier enemies in one run. They don’t want to learn mechanics, they don’t want to better themselves, they don’t want to put any effort in. This goes for nearly ALL content. Had a guy join a “HAVE LEGEND CLEARS” onslaught run I posted yesterday, said he had done 10’s of legend runs. Didn’t feel the need to check, as I like to give them the benefit. Double primary, useless exotic armor for his subclass, completely clueless, never used super etc. Then when we asked to see his emblem, he called us “gatekeeping POS”. THESE are the players I’m talking about. They are so incredibly frequent it blows my mind. If learning mechanics and synergy is too much for you, go play Go Fish. I’d rather help a new light who’s actually interested in learning gameplay features, than someone who lies and deceits those trying to play the game efficiently. Either learn the content or GTFO.

[quote]Never mentioned anything about DarkSouls difficulty. But I guess you can put words into my mouth. You have people whining about not being able to complete a 40 MINUTE mission with legend tier enemies in one run. They don’t want to learn mechanics, they don’t want to better themselves, they don’t want to put any effort in. This goes for nearly ALL content. Had a guy join a “HAVE LEGEND CLEARS” onslaught run I posted yesterday, said he had done 10’s of legend runs. Didn’t feel the need to check, as I like to give them the benefit. Double primary, useless exotic armor for his subclass, completely clueless, never used super etc. Then when we asked to see his emblem, he called us “gatekeeping POS”. THESE are the players I’m talking about. They are so incredibly frequent it blows my mind. If learning mechanics and synergy is too much for you, go play Go Fish. I’d rather help a new light who’s actually interested in learning gameplay features, than someone who lies and deceits those trying to play the game efficiently. Either learn the content or GTFO.[/quote] That's what you're defending, a difficulty -blam!-. Dark Souls Halo. That's what they're asking for and that's what they're getting. And for someone who gets suuuuuper sensitive about having words put in their mouth, you seem to have no problems not practicing what you preach, which makes you a hypocrite. You don't people to play the game. You want to feel like the thousands of hours you spent here means something. It doesn't. This [b][i]video game[/i][/b] was designed for fun and egomaniacs like you are trying to ruin that fun any way you can because you only feel good when you put other people down. Go play Dark Souls, you joyless try hard. Most people who play this game aren't like you.

Now you’re trying to create a narrative to make a non existent point seem relevant. If my hypocrisy is me trying to make my point across then I guess that makes me stubborn? From someone complaining about -5 patrol zones and master raids requiring effort. Womp Womp. You want the game to be easier than it already is. Or maybe you’re just not as good as you think you are? The GAME IS FUN, YOU just choose to make it out to be something it absolutely isn’t. Little bias here, little bias there. Get better.

If you have replaced your life with a game, then this is your decision. I don't want to spend my whole life just playing. I have a family, job, etc. And I’m not going to replace all this with a game. Yes, I understand that some activities require more time, but the game should not turn into a free and only job. After which, you won't care about everything else.