I'd like a decent Adamantine, but no way in hell I'm gonna farm for one. Ditto for the LMG, sniper, and Psychopimp. I used to spend lots of time farming red borders and crafting materials, and getting a zillion kills to level crafted weapons up. I crafted every weapon, every season. WITHOUT CRAFTING, I SPEND ZERO TIME FARMING. Seriously, if a weapon has 2 of 8 possible options available in columns 1 & 2, 1 of 7 options in columns 3 & 4, and 1 of 4 masterwork options, that's a 1 in 3,136 chance of getting a perfect roll. No f'n' way I'm gonna waste time chasing that. Even getting a 3/5 roll is about 1 in 200. Nope, not chasing that. I might, eventually, stumble into a 3/5 roll that I'll keep, but I'm not gonna play a minute longer than I otherwise would have, and I'm not going to play any activity I otherwise wouldn't, in pursuit of such low odds. Ironically, eliminating crafting has had the opposite effect that Bungie was praying for. Crafting didn't reduce play time. It increased it while people pursued red borders and materials, and more weapons, and then spent far more time playing other activities with their new toys. Bungie, if crafting was so bad, if it reduced play time because people weren't farming as much, why did people spend so much more time playing when it was available?